Sep 5, 2014, 7:50 pm
Last edit by: tardyturtle
This wiki is intended to contain a list of opportunities to fly internationally configured wide-body aircraft within the United States, aside from the usual JFK-LAX/SFO 767s and newer domestic DeltaOne routes. This is a collaborative wiki, not an OP-maintained thread; please contribute by editing the wiki directly as you become aware of regularly scheduled or repositioning flights. Schedules change far more frequently than community members have time to update this wiki; therefore please verify the equipment before purchasing a flight.
Airbus A350
None at the moment
Airbus A330-900
DL308 JFK-SEA dep 7:00am arr 10:05am (as of June 5 2021)
DL327 SEA-JFK dep 11:45am arr 8:25pm (as of June 5 2021)
Airbus A330-300
DL44 ATL-JFK dep 12:15p arr 2:31p (as of Oct. 26)
DL45 JFK-ATL dep 3:20p arr 5:50p (as of Oct. 26)
Airbus A330-200
None at the moment
Boeing 767-400ER
ATL-MCO (multiple options in Dec.)
MCO-ATL (multiple options in Dec.)
DL355 ATL-SEA dep 9:40a arr 12:05p (as of Oct. 26)
DL364 SEA-ATL dep 1:36p arr 9:15p (as of Oct. 26)
DL858 ATL-SLC dep 10:01a arr 12:04p (as of Oct. 26)
DL906 SLC-ATL dep 1:55p arr 7:28p (as of Oct. 26)
Boeing 767-300ER
JFK-LAX (majority of flights)
LAX-JFK (majority of flights)
ATL-LAS (three daily flights as of Oct. 26)
LAS-ATL (three daily flights as of Oct. 26)
ATL-MCO (multiple options through Jan.)
MCO-ATL (multiple options through Jan.)
DL1999 ATL-FLL dep 9:40a arr 11:30a (as of Oct. 26)
DL1999 FLL-ATL dep 12:55p arr 2:44p (as of Oct. 26)
DL426 ATL-JFK dep 9:52p arr 12:05a (as of Oct. 26) - certain dates operated by a 764
DL424 JFK-ATL dep 6:10a arr 8:34a (as of Oct. 26) - certain dates operated by a 764
DL1997 ATL-MIA dep 4:29p arr 6:17p (as of Oct. 26)
DL1997 MIA-ATL dep 7:45p arr 9:35p (as of Oct. 26)
DL2020 ATL-TPA dep 6:05p arr 7:32p (as of Oct. 26)
DL1536 TPA-ATL dep 8:10a arr 9:39a (as of Oct. 26)
Boeing 757-200 w/ 16 flat-bed seats
These international narrowbodies would normally also fly the domestic DeltaOne routes JFK-LAX/SFO, BOS-LAX, and DCA-LAX.
During COVID-19, when many international routes are suspended, they can be found on some domestic routes (including Hawai'i):
Regular service through March 2021:
JFK-LAS
JFK-PHX
JFK-SAN
JFK-SEA
JFK-SFO
JFK-SLC
LAX-KOA
SEA-KOA
SEA-OGG
Positioning / one-offs:
SLC-SEA
SLC-LAS
SLC-BOS 4x a week
BOS-LAX
JFK-MEX
JFK-SJU
LAX-HNL
one way to search for these on ITA
This Delta Cargo schedule lists wide body routes by region.
Looks like the A350 is running between LAX and ATL, Sunday only Red-Eye to ATL, Monday evening only return to LAX. Through Sept. 6th
Airbus A350
None at the moment
Airbus A330-900
DL308 JFK-SEA dep 7:00am arr 10:05am (as of June 5 2021)
DL327 SEA-JFK dep 11:45am arr 8:25pm (as of June 5 2021)
Airbus A330-300
DL44 ATL-JFK dep 12:15p arr 2:31p (as of Oct. 26)
DL45 JFK-ATL dep 3:20p arr 5:50p (as of Oct. 26)
Airbus A330-200
None at the moment
Boeing 767-400ER
ATL-MCO (multiple options in Dec.)
MCO-ATL (multiple options in Dec.)
DL355 ATL-SEA dep 9:40a arr 12:05p (as of Oct. 26)
DL364 SEA-ATL dep 1:36p arr 9:15p (as of Oct. 26)
DL858 ATL-SLC dep 10:01a arr 12:04p (as of Oct. 26)
DL906 SLC-ATL dep 1:55p arr 7:28p (as of Oct. 26)
Boeing 767-300ER
JFK-LAX (majority of flights)
LAX-JFK (majority of flights)
ATL-LAS (three daily flights as of Oct. 26)
LAS-ATL (three daily flights as of Oct. 26)
ATL-MCO (multiple options through Jan.)
MCO-ATL (multiple options through Jan.)
DL1999 ATL-FLL dep 9:40a arr 11:30a (as of Oct. 26)
DL1999 FLL-ATL dep 12:55p arr 2:44p (as of Oct. 26)
DL426 ATL-JFK dep 9:52p arr 12:05a (as of Oct. 26) - certain dates operated by a 764
DL424 JFK-ATL dep 6:10a arr 8:34a (as of Oct. 26) - certain dates operated by a 764
DL1997 ATL-MIA dep 4:29p arr 6:17p (as of Oct. 26)
DL1997 MIA-ATL dep 7:45p arr 9:35p (as of Oct. 26)
DL2020 ATL-TPA dep 6:05p arr 7:32p (as of Oct. 26)
DL1536 TPA-ATL dep 8:10a arr 9:39a (as of Oct. 26)
Boeing 757-200 w/ 16 flat-bed seats
These international narrowbodies would normally also fly the domestic DeltaOne routes JFK-LAX/SFO, BOS-LAX, and DCA-LAX.
During COVID-19, when many international routes are suspended, they can be found on some domestic routes (including Hawai'i):
Regular service through March 2021:
JFK-LAS
JFK-PHX
JFK-SAN
JFK-SEA
JFK-SFO
JFK-SLC
LAX-KOA
SEA-KOA
SEA-OGG
Positioning / one-offs:
SLC-SEA
SLC-LAS
SLC-BOS 4x a week
BOS-LAX
JFK-MEX
JFK-SJU
LAX-HNL
one way to search for these on ITA
Looks like the A350 is running between LAX and ATL, Sunday only Red-Eye to ATL, Monday evening only return to LAX. Through Sept. 6th
Domestic Wide-Body Opportunities: The Definitive Thread
Sep 6, 2014, 5:02 am
#16
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,269
Fair enough - recommend editing the thread title or OP (or perhaps the wiki) to reflect that this is for tracking internationally configured aircraft operating domestic routes then so as not to cause confusion.
Edited the wiki to reflect some of the 76W routes to HNL (LAX-HNL service and the JFK-HNL service added for a few weeks over the Christmas holiday period).
Edited the wiki to reflect some of the 76W routes to HNL (LAX-HNL service and the JFK-HNL service added for a few weeks over the Christmas holiday period).
I'll let democracy take over from here. If people really find value in tracking domestic 767s, I won't stop them from doing so.
Sep 6, 2014, 5:22 am
#17
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,042
Are we sure on the JFK-HNL flight with 767? I haven't gone to look them up, but usually this is a DIRECT flight with a change of equipment in LAX to 757.
Edit - Now that I look it up it does appear as a non-stop flight. However I'm betting the flight will be hit with weight restrictions and/or require a fuel stop in LAX depending on the weather. JFK-HNL is about 1000 miles under the max. Good enough if everything is ok, but add some cargo and/or wind/weather and it's going to be a different story.
Edit - Now that I look it up it does appear as a non-stop flight. However I'm betting the flight will be hit with weight restrictions and/or require a fuel stop in LAX depending on the weather. JFK-HNL is about 1000 miles under the max. Good enough if everything is ok, but add some cargo and/or wind/weather and it's going to be a different story.
Last edited by flyerCO; Sep 6, 2014 at 5:29 am
Sep 6, 2014, 7:03 am
#18
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,052
Are we sure on the JFK-HNL flight with 767? I haven't gone to look them up, but usually this is a DIRECT flight with a change of equipment in LAX to 757.
Edit - Now that I look it up it does appear as a non-stop flight. However I'm betting the flight will be hit with weight restrictions and/or require a fuel stop in LAX depending on the weather. JFK-HNL is about 1000 miles under the max. Good enough if everything is ok, but add some cargo and/or wind/weather and it's going to be a different story.
Edit - Now that I look it up it does appear as a non-stop flight. However I'm betting the flight will be hit with weight restrictions and/or require a fuel stop in LAX depending on the weather. JFK-HNL is about 1000 miles under the max. Good enough if everything is ok, but add some cargo and/or wind/weather and it's going to be a different story.
Sep 6, 2014, 8:06 am
#19
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2012
Programs: DL FO/KM, AA PLT
Posts: 2,594
Seatmap for 23 Dec for JFK-HNL (DL240) shows the Int'l configuration (1-2-1) layout in FC, albeit, DL is not selling anymore FC tickets on that flight (and seat map shows all FC seats occupied). Wouldn't that indicate it's NOT a domestic 767 but rather an international version?
Sep 6, 2014, 8:52 am
#20
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
The domestic config 767-300 (non-ER) lacks the range for non-stop JFK-HNL, and it's not even close.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...7-300-76p.html
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...7-300-76p.html
Sep 6, 2014, 11:32 am
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,042
Sep 6, 2014, 4:39 pm
#25
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,042
I think with the retirement of the 747's that the 777 will be placed onto one of those routes. Currently the LAX-ATL back on 777 is the result of the plane just not having a place that it needs to be for nearly a day. (Mainly because of the once a day only DL flight to SYD) Otherwise the plane would just sit there with no use for most of the day between flights. Now with the retirements of the 747s they need a 777 on some of those routes, thus they've reworked the 777 rotation. I truly don't understand DL retiring the 747 without new widebodies in production/being delivered, but that's an issue separate from this story.
Sep 6, 2014, 7:11 pm
#27
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 33
I think with the retirement of the 747's that the 777 will be placed onto one of those routes. Currently the LAX-ATL back on 777 is the result of the plane just not having a place that it needs to be for nearly a day. (Mainly because of the once a day only DL flight to SYD) Otherwise the plane would just sit there with no use for most of the day between flights. Now with the retirements of the 747s they need a 777 on some of those routes, thus they've reworked the 777 rotation. I truly don't understand DL retiring the 747 without new widebodies in production/being delivered, but that's an issue separate from this story.
Sep 6, 2014, 7:19 pm
#28
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Delta skymiles DM + 1MM
Posts: 8,144
Great idea but there are tons of every day opportunities out there such as the daily JFK to LAX on 763ERs, ATL to SEA, ATL to PDX, both on 763ER's, there are many more but those come off the top of my head.
Sep 6, 2014, 7:19 pm
#29
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: New Jersey
Programs: Delta P, SPG G, Marriott S, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,007
Sep 6, 2014, 7:41 pm
#30
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 552
Are we sure on the JFK-HNL flight with 767? I haven't gone to look them up, but usually this is a DIRECT flight with a change of equipment in LAX to 757.
Edit - Now that I look it up it does appear as a non-stop flight. However I'm betting the flight will be hit with weight restrictions and/or require a fuel stop in LAX depending on the weather. JFK-HNL is about 1000 miles under the max. Good enough if everything is ok, but add some cargo and/or wind/weather and it's going to be a different story.
Edit - Now that I look it up it does appear as a non-stop flight. However I'm betting the flight will be hit with weight restrictions and/or require a fuel stop in LAX depending on the weather. JFK-HNL is about 1000 miles under the max. Good enough if everything is ok, but add some cargo and/or wind/weather and it's going to be a different story.
Is this a recent option? I ask because for years I have actively researched wide-body options to HNL and I haven't found this before on either DL or elsewhere.