Jul 31, 2014, 10:51 am
Last edit by: jspira
Delta announced numerous changes to its Pacific operations on 31 July 2014.
Changes include numerous downgauges from 747s to other aircraft as well as several discontinued routes.
Delta Announces Cutbacks in the Pacific
Changes Include Smaller Aircraft and Discontinued Routes
Changes include numerous downgauges from 747s to other aircraft as well as several discontinued routes.
Delta Announces Cutbacks in the Pacific
Changes Include Smaller Aircraft and Discontinued Routes
Delta announced significant cutbacks in its Pacific division on Thursday in a memo to its employees. The airline has been reducing the size of its Tokyo hub at Narita International Airport for some time and is eliminating several routes while downgauging the aircraft used on other routes. It will also continue to expand its Seattle hub and increase non-stop routes from there.
Delta is cancelling its Tokyo (Narita)-Hong Kong and Nagoya-Manila routes on October 26 of this year. It will continue to offer non-stop service to Hong Kong from Seattle and will service Manila from Tokyo...
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Delta is cancelling its Tokyo (Narita)-Hong Kong and Nagoya-Manila routes on October 26 of this year. It will continue to offer non-stop service to Hong Kong from Seattle and will service Manila from Tokyo...
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Delta Cutting Back in the Pacific
Jul 31, 2014, 5:14 pm
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I guess DL is not interested in EastCoast folk anymore. 
Only a loony would fly 6 hours across the continent to connect to another 12 hours flight from SEA to Asia.
AA and UA must be delighted by this irrationality.
Maybe just dismantle DTW, ship it to SEA and get it over with...
Only a loony would fly 6 hours across the continent to connect to another 12 hours flight from SEA to Asia.
AA and UA must be delighted by this irrationality.
Maybe just dismantle DTW, ship it to SEA and get it over with...
SEA is DL's Pacific hub of choice. Get used to it or find another airline!
Jul 31, 2014, 5:17 pm
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Jul 31, 2014, 5:18 pm
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This is what I am hoping for (I know, wishful thinking). I just filled out a targeted survey from Delta last week stating my displeasure in partner options heading to Asia.
Jul 31, 2014, 5:46 pm
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Jul 31, 2014, 6:01 pm
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Does anyone know what the "simplified service" entails in premium cabins in beach markets to/from NRT and NRT-Micronesia? The employee letter said DL was not generating revenue premiums because the product was inferior to other competition….so it seems odd to dumb down the service even more if it's already uncompetitive. Am I missing something? Feel bad for the Asian FA's being affected and the KIX/NGO base closures.
Jul 31, 2014, 6:10 pm
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I checked some dates in Nov/Dec and the SEA flight is scheduled to leave 1445 and arrive HKG 2135, later than before. So it looks like there may indeed be a change in schedule to accommodate connections from the east.
However those dates also still show the NRT-HKG route as available, so who knows.
However those dates also still show the NRT-HKG route as available, so who knows.
Jul 31, 2014, 6:24 pm
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I did some dummy bookings at Delta.com and they are still selling NRT-HKG through February 2015, which is as far ahead as I looked. I am scheduled on that segment twice in October and once in November. I will feel better to get some certainty on this.
Jul 31, 2014, 6:34 pm
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I guess DL is not interested in EastCoast folk anymore.
Only a loony would fly 6 hours across the continent to connect to another 12 hours flight from SEA to Asia.
AA and UA must be delighted by this irrationality.
Maybe just dismantle DTW, ship it to SEA and get it over with...
Only a loony would fly 6 hours across the continent to connect to another 12 hours flight from SEA to Asia.
AA and UA must be delighted by this irrationality.
Maybe just dismantle DTW, ship it to SEA and get it over with...
Jul 31, 2014, 6:46 pm
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whew!
Gawd I'm glad booked my O SkyPesos ticket to HKG for Sept instead of Oct. BWI-DTW-SEA-HKG-NRT-ATL-BWI with no more than 3 hrs on the ground anywhere. But I guess my 747 upper deck experience NRT-ATL (Oct 3) will now be history? When will seat selection open for the 777?
One might think they would announce to their cargo, ehr, customers at the same time. Orion's post makes me hopeful. Will they simply cancel your flight out of HKG and tell you "too bad"? This is pretty poor planning even for the IT wizards at DL.
One might think they would announce to their cargo, ehr, customers at the same time. Orion's post makes me hopeful. Will they simply cancel your flight out of HKG and tell you "too bad"? This is pretty poor planning even for the IT wizards at DL.
Last edited by rjpjr; Jul 31, 2014 at 7:00 pm Reason: additional thought
Jul 31, 2014, 7:17 pm
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For a premium flyer out of JFK it's still a one stop flight all in BE (come 2015). For non-premium flyer (which is the vast majority of the aircraft) from any East Coast port your getting direct from the US to HKG instead of doing skips to on both side of the ocean. To be honest flying regularly over the Pacific I prefer the direct of the West Coast as opposed to a longer flight out of some port on the East Coast.
The Cathay nonstop from JFK to HKG takes 15:50. SEA-HKG alone clocks in at 14:15. Unless there's a plan to reinstate service from DTW or start a nonstop to HKG, Delta simply isn't a competitive option for traveling to HKG from the east coast. Connecting through NRT takes extra time versus a nonstop, but the total time if the connection is the same length as SEA blocks in at 1:55 shorter.
Jul 31, 2014, 7:31 pm
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Jul 31, 2014, 8:37 pm
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Jul 31, 2014, 8:46 pm
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Gawd I'm glad booked my O SkyPesos ticket to HKG for Sept instead of Oct. BWI-DTW-SEA-HKG-NRT-ATL-BWI with no more than 3 hrs on the ground anywhere. But I guess my 747 upper deck experience NRT-ATL (Oct 3) will now be history? When will seat selection open for the 777?
One might think they would announce to their cargo, ehr, customers at the same time. Orion's post makes me hopeful. Will they simply cancel your flight out of HKG and tell you "too bad"? This is pretty poor planning even for the IT wizards at DL.
One might think they would announce to their cargo, ehr, customers at the same time. Orion's post makes me hopeful. Will they simply cancel your flight out of HKG and tell you "too bad"? This is pretty poor planning even for the IT wizards at DL.