BE on non TCON?

Old Jul 16, 14, 9:10 pm
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BE on non TCON?

Flying SLC-JFK in Jan and the FC cabin is listed on seat map as BE, even though it's not a TCON route. Does this mean there are lie flat seats? Is it typical to have a BE cabin on a non-TCON? Reservation still says UG requested, so at least it's not the newest in cutting medallion UGs.

I'm flying on a Y/W fare (full itin is SLC-JFK-CDG-BOM with last two on AF metal), so I'm hoping to UG on the domestic segment as I'll be PM by then. I would like to just UG with miles right now, as guaranteeing FC on the first leg of an Intl itinerary would be nice, but alas no OP (or RP) availability right now
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Old Jul 16, 14, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Profchemnerd View Post
Flying SLC-JFK in Jan and the FC cabin is listed on seat map as BE, even though it's not a TCON route. Does this mean there are lie flat seats? Is it typical to have a BE cabin on a non-TCON? Reservation still says UG requested, so at least it's not the newest in cutting medallion UGs.

I'm flying on a Y/W fare (full itin is SLC-JFK-CDG-BOM with last two on AF metal), so I'm hoping to UG on the domestic segment as I'll be PM by then. I would like to just UG with miles right now, as guaranteeing FC on the first leg of an Intl itinerary would be nice, but alas no OP (or RP) availability right now
SLC-JFK does use BE seats up front occasionally. Service is not BE though, all qualify for upgrades.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 9:20 pm
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I've flown a 16 seat BE 757 on ATL-PIT.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by mbwmbw View Post
SLC-JFK does use BE seats up front occasionally. Service is not BE though, all qualify for upgrades.
Thanks! I'm hoping the Y fare will get me high on the UG list. My return Y flight cleared at booking.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 9:40 pm
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Make sure its truly a BusinessElite Config. If its a domestic leg that shares a flight number with international flight it will be labeled as business. When its actually just domestic F seat.

Example for January is DL466 SLC-JFK on your run of the mill 737-800. Same flight number shared with JFK-SVO (different aircraft)
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Old Jul 16, 14, 9:43 pm
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SLC-JFK in January is nothing but 738s. No BE seats. The flight just continues on as an international flight, hence the front cabin being coded as Business.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by javabytes View Post
SLC-JFK in January is nothing but 738s. No BE seats. The flight just continues on as an international flight, hence the front cabin being coded as Business.
I also checked today's flight which was 757. The icons on the flight status page indicated domestic 757 with standard domestic F seat. Same continuing flight to SVO.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 10:38 pm
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This question arises about once a week here. Domestic flights which have an international continuation segment are listed as "BE" flights even though they do not have BE seats nor service. In this case, you are either on DL 466 SLC-JFK-SVO or DL 444 SLC-JFK-FCO. In either case, the SLC-JFK segment neither has BE seats nor service. It is plain old domestic FC seats and service. Only the international segments (on different metal) have BE. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 10:55 pm
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Thanks for the info! Yes, it is DL 466 on the 737. I was a bit suspicious of true BE on a 737.

At least with the 4XX flight number, I'm guessing I should be saved from the horror of JFK T2. Also stoked that the W gets me on the top deck of the A380 for JFK-CDG.
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Old Jul 16, 14, 11:02 pm
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I've taken this route, if its a 767-400 plane, then most likely BE...but I'd check to make sure
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Old Jul 16, 14, 11:14 pm
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OP, good luck on the upgrades! Lie flat or not, I'm sure you'll be happy with any upgrade. I do like the upper deck on the A380 as W is much better than sitting in Y.

Last Friday, I flew JFK-ATL on a 752 domestic BE. Just the usual first class seating.

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