What are the chances of a Skyclub in San Jose (CA)?
Oct 30, 2018, 10:48 am
#31
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I was thinking about this on my last trip through SJC -- is there even a place for one? There was what looked like an unmarked anonymous door to a space that could be a lounge (I forget where but maybe opposite gate 8) -- Google finds me references to a former AA club, maybe?
Oct 30, 2018, 10:50 am
#33
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I don't. Neither does my mother (but she doesn't fly)
Oct 30, 2018, 10:51 am
#34
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Agree that I don't see it happening as Delta just doesn't have the gates there to justify it. But it is a super high yield airport with lots of premium business travel for Delta (mostly high value transcon flights since the West Coast is pretty tightly held by Alaska and Southwest) so it wouldn't be completely unjustified.
The priority pass lounge is always packed if it is any indication of the demand there (but, that said, the existence of a PP lounge decreases the need for a Delta lounge.. everyone and their mother has a card that gives them PP access now).
The priority pass lounge is always packed if it is any indication of the demand there (but, that said, the existence of a PP lounge decreases the need for a Delta lounge.. everyone and their mother has a card that gives them PP access now).
Oct 30, 2018, 10:57 am
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Oct 30, 2018, 11:01 am
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I don't. Neither does my mother (but she doesn't fly)
Oct 30, 2018, 11:30 am
#37
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I mean, a reduction in competition could well be seen as an incentive, not the opposite. LH was using a 4-engine A340. With that plane, it's hard to be profitable on a thin route. Btw, SJC-PVG was just cancelled also. The door is open for DL to ICN and AMS. (No, I don't actually forsee that happening, but just saying)
Personally, I've been hoping for a Skyteam route to Europe (anywhere) from SJC. Given all of the LCC activity at OAK, this would seem to be a good idea.
Oct 30, 2018, 11:36 am
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I don't know enough about LH's fleet and route network to comment on why they chose that plane or what else they might have done.
Oct 30, 2018, 11:49 am
#39
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This is a route I can see to AMS when KL gets some more 787's delivered. I'm just not sure that DL/AF/KL can support that many bay area TATL flights with no feed though.
Oct 30, 2018, 12:00 pm
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I didn't mean to imply it was the main problem with the route. Just saying that it certainly didn't help. A340s are unusually expensive to operate.
I don't know enough about LH's fleet and route network to comment on why they chose that plane or what else they might have done.
I don't know enough about LH's fleet and route network to comment on why they chose that plane or what else they might have done.
The closest thing they have - an A330 - is relatively rare in their fleet (they have twice as many A340s as A330s) and they probably have those positioned at more strategic locations.
The rest of Lufthansa's fleet is big and heavy: A380s, 747s, 777s, and A350s.
Oct 30, 2018, 12:03 pm
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But to the original point - DL now has service to every one of its' hubs from SJC, with the augmentation of an international flight the lounge would not seem all that outrageous.
That AA lounge is just dead space, I'd bet the airport would make a sweet deal. And now losing those 2 international routes, I'm sure they are scrambling to make up for lost ground.
Oct 30, 2018, 12:20 pm
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Delta has operated some unconventional routes, PIT - CDG comes to mind. (I wonder if its it still operating?)
But to the original point - DL now has service to every one of its' hubs from SJC, with the augmentation of an international flight the lounge would not seem all that outrageous.
That AA lounge is just dead space, I'd bet the airport would make a sweet deal. And now losing those 2 international routes, I'm sure they are scrambling to make up for lost ground.
But to the original point - DL now has service to every one of its' hubs from SJC, with the augmentation of an international flight the lounge would not seem all that outrageous.
That AA lounge is just dead space, I'd bet the airport would make a sweet deal. And now losing those 2 international routes, I'm sure they are scrambling to make up for lost ground.
Oct 30, 2018, 12:35 pm
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I think PIT/CDG got the axe. And DL certainly does have more odd ball routes than AA/UA do, but I'm just wondering how many people are going to take AF/KL/DS/VS in the Bay Area with SFO to AMS, CDG, and LHR already, unless KL moves the SFO flight to SJC, would there be enough room for a DL or KL metal flight?
Oct 30, 2018, 1:04 pm
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I agree, I don't think it makes sense. Domestically people will fly out of SJC rather than SFO because SFO is an hour further away with traffic and that makes a big difference when your total travel time is 2-4 hours. If you're flying to Europe with a total trip time of 12+ hours, the extra 1 hour to SFO (and 30 minutes without traffic) just doesn't make a big difference.
It might still happen, but if it does, I'd bet on it being a summer seasonal that was not renewed for the next year.
Oct 30, 2018, 1:31 pm
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ANA seems to be doing well with NRT. Hainan has kept PEK and both are beyond the incentive period. I think that might be the case for BA as well with LHR. I can't recall the start date. I'm not sure if another international route is in the cards for SJC or who would operate it. I don't see DL starting up SJC - AMS or SJC - ICN anytime soon even with the incentives. I also assume that DL would have received incentives to start the DTW route as well. That said, I don't see a lounge coming until they up the frequencies to their eastern hubs. 1x JFK, 1x DTW, and 3x ATL aren't enough to justify a lounge.
