Sky Clubs -- what will May 1 and beyond really be like??
Apr 17, 2014, 4:46 pm
#46
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When traveling with my family, I bring my kids in. They are not the run around and loud type and are no harm to anyone and I have paid my membership fee as a Lifer. If there is really that much heartburn for kids, maybe suggesting that Delta make a closed off family friendly area like the AA Flagship lounge in ORD (sealed off behind a wall of glass with things for things for the kids to do, movies to watch, toys, etc.) would be a great idea. Some elites travel w/ kids and still want to be away from the public so this concept has worked well for me the few times I have used it. Just a thought. I, personally, don't think that I should have to pay additional for my kids, small or teens, because some of us don't travel that often with them and that is what I signed on board for in the first place.
Apr 17, 2014, 5:30 pm
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+1...no problem here either....just pony up like other folks and pay for more than two.
Apr 17, 2014, 5:45 pm
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I agree with the separate room - the Centurion Lounges have that. It makes it better for everyone as it is a glass room with toys designed for children - most of whom are not interested in the latest issue of Sky magazine for entertainment.
Apr 17, 2014, 6:54 pm
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I don't know about everyone else, but my use of he SkyClub is down dramatically since pre-check came on line. No need to show up at the airport so early. I much prefer time at home vs. time at the SkyClub.
Apr 17, 2014, 8:35 pm
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Apr 17, 2014, 8:39 pm
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Executive members have already ponied up in one capacity or another.
Apr 17, 2014, 8:55 pm
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That may be but it is still in very poor taste. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. I pay the same price for an executive membership as some guy who is able to bring in his 12 kids. He is obviously receiving more value from his membership than I am.
Apr 17, 2014, 9:06 pm
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I agree that what you quoted is the current policy, and thus the people it applies to currently have every right to bring in their spouse/partner and children. However, I do not like it. I wish the policy were something like this:
"Every individual entering the club must have their own form of access via same-day travel on an eligible itinerary, club membership, day pass, or affiliate credit card."
Then make all the memberships individual only, and allow people with memberships to purchase guest day passes at $50 for 5 passes or something which they can use to "enhance" their membership with guest access to whatever degree is appropriate for them (and tie the passes to entrance with them so they can't be sold on eBay). If one person wants to buy 10 passes to have access for their spouse and 4 kids for one RT, great. If someone else wants to buy 10 passes to use one at a time with coworkers across a year, equally fine.
For folks grandfathered in with old lifetime memberships or the current Executive membership somehow - just give them 10 or 20 guest passes/year to use as they see fit.
Apr 17, 2014, 9:12 pm
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When traveling with my family, I bring my kids in. They are not the run around and loud type and are no harm to anyone and I have paid my membership fee as a Lifer. If there is really that much heartburn for kids, maybe suggesting that Delta make a closed off family friendly area like the AA Flagship lounge in ORD (sealed off behind a wall of glass with things for things for the kids to do, movies to watch, toys, etc.) would be a great idea. Some elites travel w/ kids and still want to be away from the public so this concept has worked well for me the few times I have used it. Just a thought. I, personally, don't think that I should have to pay additional for my kids, small or teens, because some of us don't travel that often with them and that is what I signed on board for in the first place.
Some elites travel without kids and (still) want to be away from (other people's) kids.....
Apr 17, 2014, 9:14 pm
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That may be but it is still in very poor taste. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. I pay the same price for an executive membership as some guy who is able to bring in his 12 kids. He is obviously receiving more value from his membership than I am.
Apr 17, 2014, 9:39 pm
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Pointing at the current policy is a bit of a flawed argument in a discussion about various ways in which people would like the policy to change.
I agree that what you quoted is the current policy, and thus the people it applies to currently have every right to bring in their spouse/partner and children. However, I do not like it. I wish the policy were something like this:
"Every individual entering the club must have their own form of access via same-day travel on an eligible itinerary, club membership, day pass, or affiliate credit card."
Then make all the memberships individual only, and allow people with memberships to purchase guest day passes at $50 for 5 passes or something which they can use to "enhance" their membership with guest access to whatever degree is appropriate for them (and tie the passes to entrance with them so they can't be sold on eBay). If one person wants to buy 10 passes to have access for their spouse and 4 kids for one RT, great. If someone else wants to buy 10 passes to use one at a time with coworkers across a year, equally fine.
For folks grandfathered in with old lifetime memberships or the current Executive membership somehow - just give them 10 or 20 guest passes/year to use as they see fit.
I agree that what you quoted is the current policy, and thus the people it applies to currently have every right to bring in their spouse/partner and children. However, I do not like it. I wish the policy were something like this:
"Every individual entering the club must have their own form of access via same-day travel on an eligible itinerary, club membership, day pass, or affiliate credit card."
Then make all the memberships individual only, and allow people with memberships to purchase guest day passes at $50 for 5 passes or something which they can use to "enhance" their membership with guest access to whatever degree is appropriate for them (and tie the passes to entrance with them so they can't be sold on eBay). If one person wants to buy 10 passes to have access for their spouse and 4 kids for one RT, great. If someone else wants to buy 10 passes to use one at a time with coworkers across a year, equally fine.
For folks grandfathered in with old lifetime memberships or the current Executive membership somehow - just give them 10 or 20 guest passes/year to use as they see fit.
I've always seen the dragons guest in people adult kids and their grandkids and I know someone that is able to guest his sister and brother in law and their kids in.
I agree give 10 or 20 passes a year. If someone wants to guest in their wife and four kids, make them use four passes regardless of age. And it would be nice if they would allow members to turn in their unused passes for luxury bar drinks if they didn't want to guest people in.
I think it's absurd that people can bring in their kids who are under 2 for free.
Apr 17, 2014, 9:57 pm
#57
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I also find the current policy unfair. I rarely guest anyone in, and if I want to, it's usually when I am with three or four clients. On those rare occasions I want to guest everyone in, I will be stuck paying to guest anyone in after the first 2 adults, while someone that is travelling with their spouse and six kids can guest in all for no charge. There was once at DTW where I saw a guy with four college aged kids, and two must of been his own and the other two their girlfriend/boyfriend and he was able to guest all four of the "kids" and the wife in with him am ex card, and they must have been over 21 because upstairs all four of them were drinking, yet if I want to guest in three clients as a paid skyclub member, I am expected to pay for the third.
I've always seen the dragons guest in people adult kids and their grandkids and I know someone that is able to guest his sister and brother in law and their kids in.
I agree give 10 or 20 passes a year. If someone wants to guest in their wife and four kids, make them use four passes regardless of age. And it would be nice if they would allow members to turn in their unused passes for luxury bar drinks if they didn't want to guest people in.
I think it's absurd that people can bring in their kids who are under 2 for free.
I've always seen the dragons guest in people adult kids and their grandkids and I know someone that is able to guest his sister and brother in law and their kids in.
I agree give 10 or 20 passes a year. If someone wants to guest in their wife and four kids, make them use four passes regardless of age. And it would be nice if they would allow members to turn in their unused passes for luxury bar drinks if they didn't want to guest people in.
I think it's absurd that people can bring in their kids who are under 2 for free.
Even Disney doesn't charge for 2 year olds...
Apr 17, 2014, 9:58 pm
#58
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DL - please unbundle the clubs ASAP, and add value for those of us that pay or who bought in. Right now my wife won't go in thinking it much worse in MSP and also ATL than buying lunch and drinks outside.
Apr 17, 2014, 10:18 pm
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I fault the individual and Delta. I fault Delta for making the unfair policy and the individual for the rude actions of bringing in more than two individuals. The policy should be that you only get to bring in two more individuals with your executive membership. None of the spouse/child combo. If you can afford to raise so many kids then you can afford the day passes.