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Using Delta Global Upgrades


DL page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-upgrades
(click or scroll to "Upgrade Certificates Overview" and expand the "Show Additional Details & Terms" sections to see T&C, especially for the specific conditions governing use on partner airlines)

"Global Upgrade Certificates, available exclusively for Diamond Medallion Members, offer upgrades on both international and domestic flights with Delta, and select flights with KLM, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia, Korean Air and Aeromexico."

Delta offers Diamond Medallion members the benefit of up to 4 Global Upgrade Certificates (GUCs) per year, which each allow a one-way upgrade to business class/Delta One for one person on any route in the Delta network, as well as a limited number of partner flights under specific restricted circumstances described below. 4 GUCs is enough to upgrade the Diamond Medallion member on 2 round trips or 4 one-way trips, or the Diamond Medallion member plus one companion on 1 round trip or 2 one-way trips.

Choosing upgrades as a choice benefit
  • Upgrades are valid one year from the date of issue, usually the day of or day after they are selected in Choice Benefits -- so best to wait as long as possible to select them unless you have a specific use planned for them
  • All Diamond Medallions also receive a Platinum Medallion choice benefit, even if just renewing existing Diamond status in a year, so DMs could for example select 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 4 GUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefit, or 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 8 more RUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefits
  • However, it is not possible to select 8 RUCs as one Diamond choice benefit and 4 GUCs as another, nor select 4 GUCs more than once for a single year's Diamond choice benefits -- so the most GUCs anyone can currently earn in a single year is 4
  • You may select your DM benefits at different times, so it is best to select fixed-expiration-date benefits (like gifting status or SkyClub memberships) as soon as possible, but wait until you have a specific use in mind to select upgrades, so that the expiration date is as far into the future as possible. This is especially important if you are waitlisting upgrades for a particular trip, since if the waitlist doesn't clear, a later expiration date will maximize the amount of time you have to try again to use them on a different trip.
  • For status earned based on flying in 2017, upgrades can be selected until the last day that status is valid, January 31, 2019, so they could possibly expire as late as January ~30, 2020 if they are selected as late as possible.
  • Upgrades can be used after you are no longer a Diamond Medallion as long as the upgrades are still valid, though non-DM-line phone agents will be less familiar with them, so they may be harder to use or run a higher risk of being processed incorrectly, so it may be worth booking your GUC flights before your DM status expires if possible.
  • All flights to be upgraded must be flown, not just requested, by the expiration date of the upgrade certificates, though there have been some examples of short extensions offered by phone agents (for example, to the end of the month of the expiration date) as long as the upgrade is able to be confirmed before the certificates expire. In this case it is important to push the agent to make sure the ticket is reissued right away, since it will not be possible to reissue the ticket after the GUC expires. You can tell if the ticket has been reissued because the ticket number on the booking will change from what it was when you originally booked in coach, and the GUC will be marked as "closed" in your wallet on Delta.com.

Finding upgrade space
  • Delta phone agents and the @Delta Twitter account can check for available upgrade space
  • There is no general way to check for available upgrade space online
  • However there is one exception where some flights appear to be able to be checked online: for Delta flights carrying a KLM code -- for example, most flights between the US and Europe -- ExpertFlyer.com (paid membership required) shows KLM upgrade space, and will show upgrade space for those KL-coded, DL-operated flights, which based on anecdotal evidence seems to often (but not always) correspond to upgrade space made available by Delta. This can be a way to check many dates and flights easily, but confirm with Delta that the upgrade space does in fact exist before making firm plans.
  • Upgrade space is not necessarily correlated with award space
  • If upgrade space is not available on your desired flight, you can waitlist, and it is possible the upgrade may clear before departure. If not your name should appear on the upgrade list at the gate. See next section for details.
  • Upgrade space is rarely seen in advance on busy, high-upgrade-demand routes like ATL-JNB and LAX-SYD.

Requesting an upgrade
  • You must call or Tweet at Delta to request an upgrade, they cannot be requested on the website
  • If upgrade space is available, the agent will process the upgrade immediately and you will be able to select business class seats
  • If the upgrade is confirmed in advance, your ticket will be reissued in business class at some point before the flight and you will receive a new itinerary email when this happens; occasionally the ticket does not get reissued and you will not be able to check in, but a quick call to Delta usually fixes this easily
  • Occasionally an email is sent to alert you if a waitlisted upgrade has cleared, but often the best indication is if a segment of your itinerary disappears entirely from Delta.com, which usually means the upgrade has cleared on that segment. Call Delta to have them process it so that it reappears in your itinerary, and you will be able to select business class seats.
  • There have been reports of upgrades coded incorrectly by agents -- unfortunately there is no way to know for sure if your upgrade is coded correctly, and requested upgrades seem to show up a few different ways on Delta.com, sometimes with an "upgrade requested" designation on the flight, and/or with a "phantom" duplicate flight in the seat maps which will not let you select seats
  • If an upgrade has not cleared by check-in time and you do not appear on the upgrade list on the Delta app or Delta.com, call to have an agent correct the upgrade
  • In certain airports where other airlines handle Delta's flights (particularly AMS), it is not officially possible to clear at the gate; KLM does process upgrades at the gate in AMS for certificates waitlisted 24 hours in advance of departure, but this is not an officially guaranteed benefit. To be safe make sure you have your GUC certificate numbers and redemption codes written down in case the KLM agents need this information.
  • If you are connecting, for example flying MCO-ATL-LHR, and upgrade space is not available on ATL-LHR, best practice is to waitlist on the ATL-LHR leg only, so as not to waste a global upgrade on the short MCO-ATL flight, and then add the upgrade request to MCO-ATL when/if ATL-LHR clears; most agents will understand this approach and may even proactively suggest it
  • If you have selected your choice benefits very recently (within the last 24-48 hours), the phone agent may not yet be able to see your upgrade codes, but you can read the codes to the agent from the My Wallet page on Delta.com
  • The priority order of GUCs, RUCs, mileage upgrades, and complimentary upgrades is not 100% clear, but it is known that GUCs and RUCs have higher priority than complimentary upgrades, and that GUCs and RUCs appear to have equal priority. It is listed on Delta.com that GUCs and RUCs clear first by medallion level and then by time of request, which is different from the upgrade priority used for complimentary upgrades (which is also listed on the website)

Other upgrade rules
  • Upgrades are valid on Delta flights on all economy fares except Basic Economy (E)
  • It is possible to request upgrades in one direction of a roundtrip only, for example if you had 4 US-Europe trips planned and only 4 GUCs, you might decide to upgrade the eastbound flights only as they are overnight flights and remain in economy for the westbound flights.
  • On flights operated with a Premium Select cabin, Delta has indicated that it will still be possible to use a GUC to upgrade directly from economy to Premium Select or to Delta One using the same number of GUCs. However, if an upgrade is cleared from economy to Premium Select, the GUC will be considered used, and another GUC would be required to upgrade again to Delta One. The best strategy is probably to waitlist only for Delta One upgrades, and perhaps if the GUC is close to expiring or you don't expect to have another use for it, to add a request for a Premium Select upgrade close to departure if the Delta One upgrade hasn't yet cleared and/or the Delta One seat map looks very full.
  • Upgrades may be used for the SkyMiles member and up to one companion; The companion need not be in the same PNR, but must be traveling on the exact same flight as the GUC holder.
  • Unlike AA and UA upgrades, DL upgrades cannot be gifted to someone whom the SkyMiles member is not traveling with
  • As of January 22, 2018, it is now officially possible to use a certificate for a companion but not for yourself, as long as you are traveling on the same flight as the companion -- for example if you are eligible to buy a business class ticket for business travel and want to bring your spouse by buying an economy ticket and upgrading them. It is not clear if you could upgrade your companion but not yourself. In the past the question has been raised of waiting for a complimentary medallion upgrade for the main member and then using a certificate for the companion, but now that companions for complimentary medallion upgrades are processed at the same priority as the main member, this is no longer a likely concern.

Using upgrades on KLM

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...grade-klm.html
  • "For travel on KLM-operated, Delta-marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by KLM, fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class are eligible to upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by AF, this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class into Z class. "
  • NOTE: some of the combinations above are only (relatively) recently eligible for GUCs. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.
  • In the course of processing the upgrade of a Delta-marketed, KLM-operated flight, Delta reissues the KLM flights on KLM flight numbers when they issue the upgrade, but the flights must be bought on DL flight numbers initially (unless buying expensive Y, B, or M fares with KLM)
  • It is not possible to waitlist for upgrade on KLM flights, nor to go to the airport upgrade list, so space must be available in advance in order for the upgrade to clear. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a KLM flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • KLM upgrade space can be checked on ExpertFlyer.com (requires a paid membership). ExpertFlyer also allows users to set alerts for particular fare classes becoming available, which could be useful in lieu of being able to waitlist -- you can set an ExpertFlyer alert for "Z" availability and then call Delta to grab the upgrade if you receive an ExpertFlyer alert that it becomes available.
  • KLM upgrade space on a single segment is different if you search that segment alone vs. if you search a connecting itinerary involving that segment. So if you are looking for KLM upgrades ORD-AMS-JNB, you need to search ORD-JNB in ExpertFlyer to see the true availability; even if there is space on ORD-AMS and AMS-JNB, if it Z space doesn't show up for ORD-JNB you won't be able to upgrade. Unfortunately this means that ExpertFlyer availability alerts, which can only be set on a segment-by-segment basis, are not useful for monitoring KLM upgrade availability on connecting flights.
  • In some cases, adding a DL domestic connecting flight can change KLM upgrade availability. For example ATL-AMS on KLM may show availability but MCO-ATL-AMS may not. Example. Unfortunately some more complex routings, such as forcing an extra connection to find KLM upgrade space (flying JFK-ORD-AMS-CPT instead of JFK-AMS-CPT), do not show up on ExpertFlyer so you are at the mercy of hopefully finding Delta agents who know what they're doing.
  • Bookings with KLM ticket numbers (starting in 074) can be upgraded using the same rules as bookings with Delta ticket numbers (starting in 006). Delta-operated, KLM-coded flights can be upgraded under the same rules as any other KLM-coded flight. Delta-coded, Delta-operated flights booked on a KLM ticket number can be upgraded the same as if they were booked on a Delta ticket number, so in any fare class other than E.
  • There have been numerous challenges with KLM upgrades, so be careful, be persistent, and make sure you request the upgrade within the no-risk cancellation window of the ticket so you can cancel if it doesn't work as expected.
  • More KLM upgrade reading: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Using upgrades on Virgin Atlantic

3-year-old thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1779666-guc-now-able-used-virgin-atlantic-vs.html
related, upgrading VS with SkyMiles (also requires G class, so the info may be useful too?): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1857464-definitive-thread-use-sky-miles-upgrade-vs.html
  • "Valid on Delta-marketed (DL flight number), Virgin Atlantic-operated flights for use globally on published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class to G class (Upper Class). " Upgrading on Virgin-marketed (VS flight number) flights using GUCs is not possible.
  • Global Upgrades on Virgin Atlantic flights must be confirmed 24 hours prior to departure.
  • Global Upgrade Certificates may not be used to waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic-operated flight. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • DL flight numbers are not available for most Virgin Atlantic flights to regions other than the US (for example LHR-JNB), so it is not possible to use GUCs on those flights.
  • Virgin Atlantic upgrade space appears to use the same availability as awards, so if a business class award is available for a Virgin Atlantic flight on Delta.com, it should be available for an upgrade (as long as that flight is booked on a DL flight number). If an award is not available, an upgrade is probably not available -- but if you notice any exceptions to this rule please share in the thread. You can also monitor G space using ExpertFlyer (see KLM section above).
  • Because G is the same code as Virgin Atlantic uses for award tickets, after you fly the tickets will register with Delta as having been awards and will not earn any miles. Watch your mileage earning carefully and you will likely have to call Delta and explain that it wasn't an award ticket but an upgrade from a paid coach ticket, and they will correct the mileage earning to be equivalent to what you would have earned on your original coach ticket.

Using upgrades on Virgin Australia

Valid on Delta-marketed, Virgin Australia-operated flights on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U class to Virgin Australia’s Business Class.

Using upgrades on Air France

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-onward.html

"For travel on Air France-operated flights marketed by Air France and booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class, customers can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by KLM, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class can upgrade into Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by Delta, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). In addition, customers traveling on an Air France-marketed and operated flight and booked in W, S or A class as well as customers traveling on an Air France-operated, Delta-marketed flight and booked in P, A, or G class can upgrade to Z class (Business Class)"

NOTE: GUC usage on AF used to be restricted to high fare classes only. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.

Using upgrades on Korean (restricted to certain fare classes only)

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ed-thread.html

"Valid on Delta-marketed, Korean Air-operated flights for use globally on Delta's published fares booked in Y or B class to Korean Air's Z class, or booked in M class to Korean Air's O class."

GUC usage on Korean requires the purchase of high fare classes, which may mean that it is cheaper to buy a discounted business class ticket than to buy an eligible coach fare and try to upgrade. Uniquely, it is possible to use GUCs to upgrade from business to first on Korean, but only if you buy the most expensive business class fares.

Using upgrades on Aeromexico

"For travel on Aeromexico operated, Delta marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on Delta`s published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Aeromexico`s O class."




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Old Dec 29, 2017, 11:36 am
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I recently used a GUC for a purchased KLM coded, DL operated AMS-US flight. When the GUC was applied and reissued the flight changed to the DL code.

Mileage has posted for the entire trip with the exception of the AMS-US flight. It is listed as "Not Eligible for Mileage Credit". I called the Diamond line, they reprocessed it but it reverted back to the "Not Eligible" status.

Has anyone else run into something similar? If so, any suggestions for getting the correct mileage applied?
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I had booked XXX-DTW-ICN-YYY. J was completely open, but my GUC didn't clear.

J started selling. It was mostly full, and I still wasn't cleared (and it was looking worse and worse).

Then Delta changed the schedule by over an hour (moved my departure up to 5:30 AM). I didn't like that. They were willing to rebook me via ATL instead (XXX-ATL-ICN-YYY). A few days later, the GUC cleared.

The DTW flight was on an A350, so I gave up a small chance of Delta Suites for (now) guaranteed D1. I'll take that. (And I'm on an A350 on the return, still waiting for the GUC to clear.)
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Old Dec 29, 2017, 12:57 pm
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The DTW flight was on an A350, so I gave up a small chance of Delta Suites for (now) guaranteed D1. I'll take that. (And I'm on an A350 on the return, still waiting for the GUC to clear.)
I'm surprised by how few trip reports of the new A350 business-class there have been. It's been 2 months now.
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 3:02 pm
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I would presume that this is not possible or permitted, but has anyone been able to waitlist for D1 without the GUCs in hand?

I have a SYD trip booked in May. Since this is a low hit-rate route, I don't want to start the expiration clock on my '18 certs just so I can fail to clear the waitlist. Is there a best-practice strategy for this situation?
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Originally Posted by angra
I would presume that this is not possible or permitted, but has anyone been able to waitlist for D1 without the GUCs in hand?

I have a SYD trip booked in May. Since this is a low hit-rate route, I don't want to start the expiration clock on my '18 certs just so I can fail to clear the waitlist. Is there a best-practice strategy for this situation?
Not possible. I have cleared every time I've used a GUC on that route.
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Originally Posted by angra
I would presume that this is not possible or permitted, but has anyone been able to waitlist for D1 without the GUCs in hand?

I have a SYD trip booked in May. Since this is a low hit-rate route, I don't want to start the expiration clock on my '18 certs just so I can fail to clear the waitlist. Is there a best-practice strategy for this situation?
You can phone in and ask if there's upgrade space, and if there is immediately get the GUCs and apply one. There's a small chance you'll lose out if someone else grabs it first.

What do you plan to do if there is no upgrade space available prior to the flight, but there appear to be D1 seats available?
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by sethb
What do you plan to do if there is no upgrade space available prior to the flight, but there appear to be D1 seats available?
Well, now that I've confirmed that standby without certs-in-hand is not possible, assuming that I didn't get any strategic advice from the older and wiser DM's, I'd probably go ahead and take them around March and get on the waitlist and hope for the best.

This is the only trip I have currently booked where GUC can be relevant. I have no idea what my travel will be like in 2018, yet, so I'd rather not burn validity for nothing. I'd always heard that upgrades are super hard to come by on LAX-SYD, but perhaps I've misread. Maybe it's just that they never clear in advance.
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 1:27 pm
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I had a bunch of FlexPerks points to burn before the 25% devaluation yesterday, and I was debating where to go, so, I ended up with Buenos Aires!

PIT/EZE was $1894 in Y! . . . . But, DCA/EZE was only $976 <and I hava free place to stay overnite 5 minutes from DCA!>

The point threshold with FlexPerks was, that, a $1000 ticket required 50,000 points. If the ticket was over $1000, it jumped to 70,000 points for a ticket up to $1400, so, I wanted to keep it under $1000 . . . .

I booked:

DCA/MSP/ATL/EZE - - EZE/ATL/DCA

Both 10 hour over-the-water flights had upgrade availability in advance, although, the outbound only had 1 seat available. FlexPerks travel told me that it could take up to 2 hours for the ticket to be issued, so, I sweated it out for a while. When the ticket was issued, I snagged the last UG seat! Yay! <plus 1 of the 3 domestic segments upgraded immediately>

So, I got a trip to Argentina <basically> in J, for FREE!!! <plus the FlexPerks $25.00 booking fee> Keeping the ticket price below $1000 left me with enough points for a free ticket to MEX with a 1 day stopover in NYC!

I'm calling it a success!
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Old Jan 4, 2018, 2:49 pm
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I just noticed that Delta has published a lot more information about using certificates on their website:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-upgrades.html

The "Get the most out of your upgrade certificates" section is particularly useful. It's nice to see them being upfront with people that certain markets are hard to get upgraded in, for example.

They also explain what the priority for certificate upgrades is! It is no longer a mystery. Appears the answer is that it's medallion tier and then time of request.

The details about upgrading on flights with Premium Select are also useful in the Waitlisting section. It's what we had already understood to be the rules, but it's a nicely thorough explanation of how everything works.
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Old Jan 6, 2018, 2:33 pm
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As a purely anecdotal question, how often does everyone check their upgrade status when waitlisted? I’ve got two specific segments I’ve requested on different trips I’ve been waitlisted for. The first is ATL-SJC on 1/18 where my complimentary cross-grade to a window C+ cleared prior to waitlisting. If I can get an aisle I’ll pull the waitlist. The second segment, early morning SJC-MSP on 2/12, I would really like the RUC to clear and will let it go to the gate if necessary as I’ll be driving from MRY to start home.

My understanding is correct that if I let both of these go to the gate, and they clear, they will not be reticketed and therefore be eligible for the applicable MQM bonuses?

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Old Jan 6, 2018, 3:48 pm
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It doesn't matter if the RUC clears in advance or at the gate, you don't get the MQM bonus. I generally check about once per day, and call once per week if the upgrade hasn't cleared to see if upgrade space has opened. (As you probably know, RUCs often aren't coded correctly, so you don't automatically get upgraded even if space opens. There's no way to know if it's been coded correctly except to keep calling.)
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 9:01 am
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NRT-DTW No Advance Clearing Despite 16 Open Seats

I booked a flight from Asia (Taipei) back to New York through NRT and DTW. I waitlisted with a GUC on the NRT to DTW segment for Delta One. It started with about 12 seats available but no upgrade inventory when I booked a little over a month out. It went as low as 9 seats available a few weeks ago before creeping up to 16 seats with only 3 days until the flight (1/14 the day before MLK Day which could affect business travel). Still haven't cleared, even called the Diamond Desk. The agent was apologetic but nothing she could do. Does Delta really need to hold 16 seats back 3 days In advance? I'd rather not have to do a gate upgrade. I'm already 0/3 in trying to use GUCs in the last few months with one questionable situation at the gate where someone in a lower booking class ended up ahead of me.

Anyway, with 16 seats I shouldn't have to worry about 16 last minute ticket sales. But I'm starting to debate whether these are really worth it, especially with a somewhat non-transparent upgrade process.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by dave456
I booked a flight from Asia (Taipei) back to New York through NRT and DTW. I waitlisted with a GUC on the NRT to DTW segment for Delta One. It started with about 12 seats available but no upgrade inventory when I booked a little over a month out. It went as low as 9 seats available a few weeks ago before creeping up to 16 seats with only 3 days until the flight (1/14 the day before MLK Day which could affect business travel). Still haven't cleared, even called the Diamond Desk. The agent was apologetic but nothing she could do. Does Delta really need to hold 16 seats back 3 days In advance? I'd rather not have to do a gate upgrade. I'm already 0/3 in trying to use GUCs in the last few months with one questionable situation at the gate where someone in a lower booking class ended up ahead of me.

Anyway, with 16 seats I shouldn't have to worry about 16 last minute ticket sales. But I'm starting to debate whether these are really worth it, especially with a somewhat non-transparent upgrade process.

Dave
I would not be surprised if Delta has a policy of no advance upgrades on the A350 for the time being, because they want to "preserve the new product" or whatever. Most likely if such a policy is in place, it will eventually be scaled back, but the product is still only a few months old so it may be another year or maybe even longer before they do.

Also, has an agent told you there are 16 seats available for sale? Empty seats on the seat map are not necessarily unsold. Some people don't get seat assignments when they book, especially on international flights where there is a greater share of people who may have booked through a third party.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by bgriff
I would not be surprised if Delta has a policy of no advance upgrades on the A350 for the time being, because they want to "preserve the new product" or whatever. Most likely if such a policy is in place, it will eventually be scaled back, but the product is still only a few months old so it may be another year or maybe even longer before they do.

Also, has an agent told you there are 16 seats available for sale? Empty seats on the seat map are not necessarily unsold. Some people don't get seat assignments when they book, especially on international flights where there is a greater share of people who may have booked through a third party.
This is for the second flight of the day, which is still an A330 - so no Delta One Suites. The agent didn't tell me 16 seats - it's what I see when viewing the upgrade status in the mobile app. She did, however, tell me it looked open. However, since it went from 9 at its lowest to 16, I assume there are at least 7 tickets that were refunded. Anyway, I will continue to wait and hope I can finally use one of my GUCs.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 10:57 am
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I recently waitlisted a GUC for a Delta-operated flight ex-AMS many weeks in advance and I also confirmed with multiple agents that the certificate was waitlisted correctly. And yet when I got to the gate, I wasn't on the agent's upgrade list at all. Furthermore, both the Crown Lounge agent and gate agent said the flight was full, yet the Delta app said there were 5 seats open (I realize seats open ≠ space available) AND seats were available for purchase.

Does anyone have experience with upgrades on Delta-operated flights where KLM agents are in charge of airport operations? I felt like trying to get the upgrade was a fool's errand.
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