MQDs using Ultimate Rewards or "Bulk Tickets"
Jan 27, 2014, 8:22 pm
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MQDs using Ultimate Rewards or "Bulk Tickets"
So I've been following this threat over at United: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...elsewhere.html
Basically it seems that United is not honoring PQDs (same thing as Delta's MQDs) if the ticket was bought through certain agencies. In this case American Express travel agents. I have uncovered additional evidence that Chase Ultimate Rewards tickets may not earn any PQDs either...
Curious if anyone has seen a similar bomb drop at Delta.
If so, this destroys the value of most of the points-earning credit cards and throws yet another huge wrench into the status game...
Thoughts?
Basically it seems that United is not honoring PQDs (same thing as Delta's MQDs) if the ticket was bought through certain agencies. In this case American Express travel agents. I have uncovered additional evidence that Chase Ultimate Rewards tickets may not earn any PQDs either...
Curious if anyone has seen a similar bomb drop at Delta.
If so, this destroys the value of most of the points-earning credit cards and throws yet another huge wrench into the status game...
Thoughts?
Jan 27, 2014, 8:31 pm
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I suspect that most credit card points redemptions are done by people without status who couldn't care less about PQD's or MQD's. So saying that it destroys the value of these credit cards is a bit of a stretch. Note that if these are truly bulk/consolidator fares, they are also subject to reduced mileage/MQM earning on DL -- http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ial-fares.html
Jan 27, 2014, 8:36 pm
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You have misunderstood the entire issue. It has nothing to do with Amex or TA's and has to do with bulk consolidator tickets which expressly do not earn PQD. In the thread you link to, the OP's employer chose to have its corporate TA purchase ultra cheap bulk tickets and those do not earn PQD. The issue is between that OP and his employer.
Or, if you choose to purchase a ticket which expressly does not earn PQD, you can hardly kvetch later that it was wrong that you didn't.
Or, if you choose to purchase a ticket which expressly does not earn PQD, you can hardly kvetch later that it was wrong that you didn't.
Jan 27, 2014, 9:01 pm
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Often1 - I'm hoping you're correct. But my secondary piece of evidence is that I received the same "not eligible for PQDs" message on a recent United flight that I purchased with Ultimate Rewards.
I have used Ultimate Rewards (and USBank points) routinely in the past on both United and Delta and always gotten full MQM/PQM credit.
ANyway, I'm still waiting for United's reply and I'll be posting it here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...e-rewards.html
I have used Ultimate Rewards (and USBank points) routinely in the past on both United and Delta and always gotten full MQM/PQM credit.
ANyway, I'm still waiting for United's reply and I'll be posting it here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...e-rewards.html
Jan 27, 2014, 9:23 pm
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MQDs using Ultimate Rewards or "Bulk Tickets"
I think it depends. You could extend the same logic out to flights booked via spg flights. In the past when I booked a flight with starpoints it priced out and was booked as a T fare. This was before MQD so I was only concerned about MQM. So if you go through a 3rd party you will have to be aware if it is a published ticket fare class or a consolidator fare class...
Feb 2, 2014, 6:59 pm
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OKAY - VERY BAD NEWS.
I have confirmed with United that Ultimate Rewards tickets will earn ZERO PQDs.
This is beyond outrageous, but there's nothing I can do. Total waste.
I have no idea what Delta's take on this will be, but so far I have not read anyone's report on wether Delta will honor MQDs on Ultimate Rewards or other credit card points purchases.
I hope someone will post something positive here!
I have confirmed with United that Ultimate Rewards tickets will earn ZERO PQDs.
This is beyond outrageous, but there's nothing I can do. Total waste.
I have no idea what Delta's take on this will be, but so far I have not read anyone's report on wether Delta will honor MQDs on Ultimate Rewards or other credit card points purchases.
I hope someone will post something positive here!
Feb 2, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Gee, what a brilliant response! My post here is about the likelihood that Delta may have exactly the same policy given that they two tend to copy each other. So far I have not seen anyone from Delta confirm that Ultimate Rewards tickets will earn MQDs. That is the point of my post.
Feb 2, 2014, 7:08 pm
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Feb 2, 2014, 7:18 pm
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I'm curious about US Bank points. Not so much MQDs, but, MQMs. If they eliminate MQDs for US Bank points, will they also eliminate MQMs?