Delta announces new international Y benefits, 777 changes
Dec 11, 13, 8:44 am
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Delta announces new international Y benefits, 777 changes
During the investor relations presentation, Delta told analysts it would make the following changes in coach:
A full-size water bottle for every passenger
A snack box upon arrival (I'm unclear if this is instead of the arrival meal...)
A mini-amenity kit with at least eye shades and ear plugs
Better ear buds
Free liquor (we've heard that already)
They also announced a reconfiguration of the 777s, taking out 7 BE seats and adding 30 Y seats. And they said it would be done within eight months.
A full-size water bottle for every passenger
A snack box upon arrival (I'm unclear if this is instead of the arrival meal...)
A mini-amenity kit with at least eye shades and ear plugs
Better ear buds
Free liquor (we've heard that already)
They also announced a reconfiguration of the 777s, taking out 7 BE seats and adding 30 Y seats. And they said it would be done within eight months.
Dec 11, 13, 8:48 am
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Fewer FC or fewer BE seats would be scary. Now we'll have fewer seats with more people competing for upgrades since any fare above E is now eligible. I often see BE cabins on the 777 that are full or only have a few empty seats before nonrevs are put on the flight.
Dec 11, 13, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Fewer FC or fewer BE seats would be scary. Now we'll have fewer seats with more people competing for upgrades since any fare above E is now eligible. I often see BE cabins on the 777 that are full or only have a few empty seats before nonrevs are put on the flight.
Dec 11, 13, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
At least they haven't yet announced 10-abreast in the 777. That is MISERABLE!
Dec 11, 13, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by jrkmsp
As they built up to their announcement, I really thought that was where they were going. Minus seven, plus 30 really could be a lot worse. This will make the A333 and B777 much more similar.
Dec 11, 13, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by Vuelos
Odd to see 7 seats being pulled out versus 8...
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Dec 11, 13, 9:24 am
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Wow losing 7 seats in BE? Are those added Y seats going to be Y- or some EC?
So we're going to 38/254 J/Y (292 total pax).
Anyone who thinks they're going to be able to find upgrade inventory for a global cert is smoking something... and this is going to just drive J prices up even higher.
So we're going to 38/254 J/Y (292 total pax).
Anyone who thinks they're going to be able to find upgrade inventory for a global cert is smoking something... and this is going to just drive J prices up even higher.
Dec 11, 13, 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by rylan
this is going to just drive J prices up even higher.
Dec 11, 13, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by DiverDave
I'm going to guess that they will remove the lav at row 10 and replace that with a seat. That would leave two lavs for the remaining 38 seats.
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Dec 11, 13, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by DiverDave
I'm going to guess that they will remove the lav at row 10 and replace that with a seat. That would leave two lavs for the remaining 38 seats.
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Driving optimal revenue is right for the airline, tho the loss of 7-BE seats is lamentable. 45J for these birds seemed too high in the current revenue environment with most airlines optimizing T7s in the 30-40 range it seems.
I had heard a rumor of transitioning the T7 fleet to the 74S seat, but I'm not sure they would do that just yet given the fleet isn't that old.
Hopefully, all remaining inventory in the future will be used toward GUs vs. the current situation.
I had heard a rumor of transitioning the T7 fleet to the 74S seat, but I'm not sure they would do that just yet given the fleet isn't that old.
Hopefully, all remaining inventory in the future will be used toward GUs vs. the current situation.
Dec 11, 13, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by DLGrkItalNY
Driving optimal revenue is right for the airline, tho the loss of 7-BE seats is lamentable. 45J for these birds seemed too high in the current revenue environment with most airlines optimizing T7s in the 30-40 range it seems.
Hopefully, all remaining inventory in the future will be used toward GUs vs. the current situation.
Hopefully, all remaining inventory in the future will be used toward GUs vs. the current situation.
If DL has a better product, optimizing revenue could easily mean flying aircraft with more business class seats than DL's competitors use, especially given that DL doesn't do IFC.
