PE seating on AF
Oct 17, 2013, 7:36 am
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PE seating on AF
I have several upcoming segments on AF (but with DL flight #). What are the in and outs of PE seating on AF flights. Not the same as DL EC i know. Any way to pay something and score one of those? Where is the best place to start? Thanks in advance.
Oct 17, 2013, 7:39 am
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You must buy a (more expensive) ticket for the PE cabin. You need a PE fare class such as W for the DL codeshare, W and IIRC two others for the AF flight number. You can't pay extra from a coach ticket to select a PE seat.
Oct 17, 2013, 7:49 am
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You would need to buy up to W, or if you bought an expensive coach ticket and the ever elusive O bucket opens up and you have a SWU you might be able to upgrade.
Separately, AF offers Seat Plus (exit row, etc) which you can get. If you can find the right person to convince and are GM or higher, you can theoretically get these for free.
Separately, AF offers Seat Plus (exit row, etc) which you can get. If you can find the right person to convince and are GM or higher, you can theoretically get these for free.
Oct 17, 2013, 8:13 am
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Should be around $1800 round trip. Not available on delta.com for all flight (only available when cheap AF A>0).
If not available through on delta ticket, you can buy directly on airfrance.us and add your skymiles # into your AF reservation to get miles and MQM credit.
Oct 17, 2013, 8:19 am
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If you're hoping to use a SWU to upgrade into AF business class, be careful about the required fare class as well as the rules about codeshare tickets.
Oct 17, 2013, 10:28 am
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W class is DL's codeshare class for PE on any plane so equipped. The straight AF classes are S, W, and A.
When I flew W on AZ a couple of weeks ago, for purposes of boarding and security access, W was treated as if it were J.
Oct 17, 2013, 2:26 pm
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Oops, sorry, I'm reading it again - you will get the MQM but NOT the MQD. Which - considering the cost of premium voyageur - quite frankly sucks. We're flying to Europe Dec. 2014 and my husband would prefer to fly AF PV because he can sleep in those seats (I'm too cheap to pay for business
) Trying to book a multi-city on delta.com that involves a W fare TATL was useless, though I could do it quite easily on the airfrance website. Boo. Guess I have a year to figure out how to do it on the delta site if I want all those MQMs AND MQDs....https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...mt-silver.html
Oct 17, 2013, 2:30 pm
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I thought that as of next year - with the MQD introduction - this was no longer the case, that you must be booked on a Delta ticket to get the full MQM?
Oops, sorry, I'm reading it again - you will get the MQM but NOT the MQD. Which - considering the cost of premium voyageur - quite frankly sucks. We're flying to Europe Dec. 2014 and my husband would prefer to fly AF PV because he can sleep in those seats (I'm too cheap to pay for business) Trying to book a multi-city on delta.com that involves a W fare TATL was useless, though I could do it quite easily on the airfrance website. Boo. Guess I have a year to figure out how to do it on the delta site if I want all those MQMs AND MQDs....
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...mt-silver.html
Oops, sorry, I'm reading it again - you will get the MQM but NOT the MQD. Which - considering the cost of premium voyageur - quite frankly sucks. We're flying to Europe Dec. 2014 and my husband would prefer to fly AF PV because he can sleep in those seats (I'm too cheap to pay for business
) Trying to book a multi-city on delta.com that involves a W fare TATL was useless, though I could do it quite easily on the airfrance website. Boo. Guess I have a year to figure out how to do it on the delta site if I want all those MQMs AND MQDs....https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...mt-silver.html
Oct 17, 2013, 2:33 pm
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A lot of people, including some with no status whatsoever, have reported success in having the phone ticketing fee waived when something cannot be booked via delta.dumb.
Oct 17, 2013, 7:26 pm
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(I had really hoped to be able to use miles to get an upgrade on our last trip to Paris but that was about when that became impossible. Pooh!)