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HongKonger Oct 5, 2013 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar (Post 21559377)
I make sure before I leave the original gate that I am set - that is I would not have left without FC seat assignment.

FWIW I was asked to VBD this week from a connection to a direct on a RJ. I asked if could get my original MQM - no, would they give a FC seat - no only put me on the upgrade list, was a seat on the 8:50am flight available - yes, but since it left 5 min after my original flight and would get me in before my connecting flight - no Delta $$. So I declined and kept my original seats and collected the MQM miles. All of the above was per policy but with no flexibility I ain't going to VBD.


I have also had a mutual VBD before getting to airport because of weather in Philly. We agreed to the flight the next day which was great cause we needed more time and they immediately gave us both FC seats. A win-win.

This too

fti Oct 5, 2013 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by twtrvl (Post 21560304)
Why did you have to go outside security to do the paperwork?

For some reason the computer at the gate they used didn't generate the VDB voucher.

The gate area was a mess anyway - super crowded. Also, it was very hard to find volunteers. One after the next rejected DL's offer (required a 2-night stay in ANC at the airline's expense including a ton of food vouchers). Fortunately I had the time, plus it gave me 2 more nights in a place I love, not to mention I got to see a spectacular display of the Northern Lights the second night!

Crossin Jordan Oct 5, 2013 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by suvayanr (Post 21558661)
Was flying SLC-RDU the other day with a connection in BOS. Lady at Skyclub told me SLC-BOS was oversold by 8. Left early, headed to the gate, agreed to a VDB on the condition of being rebooked in full F/J via ATL and $200 which was great since I'd be getting home early and would be making money.

Sorry to say, but OP was greedy on that one. ATL-RDU is less than 1hr wheels up to wheels down. Was it really worth holding out for a rebooking in F for such a short flight? IMO $200 is a pretty low compensation level and wonder if it would have been wiser to negotiate a higher voucher amount, and then taking whatever middle seat was still availble on the new flight...

HongKonger Oct 5, 2013 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by Crossin Jordan (Post 21560518)
Quote:





Originally Posted by suvayanr


Was flying SLC-RDU the other day with a connection in BOS. Lady at Skyclub told me SLC-BOS was oversold by 8. Left early, headed to the gate, agreed to a VDB on the condition of being rebooked in full F/J via ATL and $200 which was great since I'd be getting home early and would be making money.




Sorry to say, but OP was greedy on that one. ATL-RDU is less than 1hr wheels up to wheels down. Was it really worth holding out for a rebooking in F for such a short flight? IMO $200 is a pretty low compensation level and wonder if it would have been wiser to negotiate a higher voucher amount, and then taking whatever middle seat was still availble on the new flight...

I think you should re-read the OP. SLC-ATL-RDU

Crossin Jordan Oct 5, 2013 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 21560565)
I think you should re-read the OP. SLC-ATL-RDU

Stand corrected. but i guess i just like to keep it simple (like i am simple) and that means cashing out my seat for a $$ voucher and no specials, and hope i get u/g on the new segments (and thankfully i normally do in my history of VDB). Maybe i should rethink my strategy.

HongKonger Oct 5, 2013 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by Crossin Jordan (Post 21560603)
Quote:





Originally Posted by HongKonger


I think you should re-read the OP. SLC-ATL-RDU




Stand corrected. but i guess i just like to keep it simple (like i am simple) and that means cashing out my seat for a $$ voucher and no specials, and hope i get u/g on the new segments (and thankfully i normally do in my history of VDB). Maybe i should rethink my strategy.

Cheap date :-)

Remember, when you cross Jordan, Jordan also crosses you. Go, and meditate on this.

suvayanr Oct 5, 2013 9:53 pm

VDB gone wrong?
 
I got a seat request for a J class ticket. I really should have checked to get a seat assigned or gotten a different routing. I suppose it's not worth asking for any other compensation?

DeltaJoe Oct 5, 2013 10:01 pm

ATL-AMS volunteer solicitation for Sunday night
 
This is a variation on the above thread.

Just checked in for the night flight to AMS tomorrow and got the "volunteers needed" prompt. I bid for $600 since it is an international flight and promptly told $400 was the limit. i was very surprised to get such a low offer. I went ahead and put in $400 because I have the time to wait and we will see what happens. There are other flights that afternoon but no non-stops, routing through DTW or LHR and getting in several hours later.

What are the odds of holding out for more than $400...and getting a FC seat on the transatlantic leg? Am currently in Economy Comfort. I've gotten $400 for domestic bumps, sure seems low for international travel.

HongKonger Oct 5, 2013 10:15 pm


Originally Posted by suvayanr (Post 21560917)
I got a seat request for a J class ticket. I really should have checked to get a seat assigned or gotten a different routing. I suppose it's not worth asking for any other compensation?

If you were in paid J and were told you'd be in F on those new legs it is absolutely worth a complaint.

HongKonger Oct 5, 2013 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by DeltaJoe (Post 21560931)
This is a variation on the above thread.

Just checked in for the night flight to AMS tomorrow and got the "volunteers needed" prompt. I bid for $600 since it is an international flight and promptly told $400 was the limit. i was very surprised to get such a low offer. I went ahead and put in $400 because I have the time to wait and we will see what happens. There are other flights that afternoon but no non-stops, routing through DTW or LHR and getting in several hours later.

What are the odds of holding out for more than $400...and getting a FC seat on the transatlantic leg? Am currently in Economy Comfort. I've gotten $400 for domestic bumps, sure seems low for international travel.

$400 is the limit programmed into that system. The actual VDBs if necessary will be handled by the GA. You can negotiate for the J seat TATL and the amount of compensation. Whether you get it depends on the loads on the alternate flights and how many they are oversold/what they need to offer to get people to bite.

suvayanr Oct 5, 2013 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 21560973)
Quote:





Originally Posted by suvayanr


I got a seat request for a J class ticket. I really should have checked to get a seat assigned or gotten a different routing. I suppose it's not worth asking for any other compensation?




If you were in paid J and were told you'd be in F on those new legs it is absolutely worth a complaint.

No I meant that I was given a ticket for full J by the GA as part of the VDB agreement. I told him I wanted to make up the miles and was tired and wanted to be up front so he agreed to rebook the ticket in full J. Was on a K fare originally

HongKonger Oct 6, 2013 12:24 am


Originally Posted by suvayanr (Post 21560979)
Quote:





Originally Posted by HongKonger


Quote:





Originally Posted by suvayanr


I got a seat request for a J class ticket. I really should have checked to get a seat assigned or gotten a different routing. I suppose it's not worth asking for any other compensation?




If you were in paid J and were told you'd be in F on those new legs it is absolutely worth a complaint.




No I meant that I was given a ticket for full J by the GA as part of the VDB agreement. I told him I wanted to make up the miles and was tired and wanted to be up front so he agreed to rebook the ticket in full J. Was on a K fare originally

This is like the glitch of being rebooked in full Y during IROPs. It used to give bonus MQMs but not anymore. And even then your original fare was still in the system.

AFAIK you can't negotiate for a particular fare code or extra MQMs during a VDB/IROPS so you aren't entitled to any. But here's a question, why not? I bet lots of pax would give up their $400 for 5,000 MQMs. DL could save a ton of money.

SamOF Oct 6, 2013 2:10 am


Originally Posted by suvayanr (Post 21560917)
I got a seat request for a J class ticket. I really should have checked to get a seat assigned or gotten a different routing. I suppose it's not worth asking for any other compensation?

Aha. This suggests that the GA for your new flight cleared the UG list too early—hence the agent had space to book you into J but there were no seats. As someone who sometimes check in late (but legally so) for flights, this always annoys me, and I think is worth a complaint in and of itself.

Once, I had to book a very last minute ticket, and I bought an A fare. This was T-50 or so. The GA had already cleared the upgrade list, so tried to give me a Y seat. I wasn't happy.

OHDL1 Oct 6, 2013 4:51 am


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 21560354)
Completely untrue.

No, sorry, completely true. But, we all know, what's supposed to be done and what
IS done are two different stories. (Think..policy on upgrades after boarding.) YMMV

OHDL1 Oct 6, 2013 4:59 am


Originally Posted by SamOF (Post 21561404)
Aha. This suggests that the GA for your new flight cleared the UG list too early—hence the agent had space to book you into J but there were no seats. As someone who sometimes check in late (but legally so) for flights, this always annoys me, and I think is worth a complaint in and of itself.

Once, I had to book a very last minute ticket, and I bought an A fare. This was T-50 or so. The GA had already cleared the upgrade list, so tried to give me a Y seat. I wasn't happy.

So...did you claim the difference in fare and the $200 voucher that goes with being downgraded? Or...did you finally get a FC seat?


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