CRJ Being Phased Out?
Sep 12, 2013, 4:28 pm
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CRJ Being Phased Out?
I thought Delta was phasing out the CRJ's. This summer the SLC-MFR's were moved to CRJ 700 and CRJ 900 from the 200 series. Now it looks as if most are either 100 or 200 series? Which means no 1st class (Boo)
2 Questions that I hope someone could help answer -- Where do I find out the general aircraft schedule changes and what operates where, and is Delta really eliminating the 100 and 200 CRj's
2 Questions that I hope someone could help answer -- Where do I find out the general aircraft schedule changes and what operates where, and is Delta really eliminating the 100 and 200 CRj's
Sep 12, 2013, 4:33 pm
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Download the PDF schedule from here: http://www.delta.com/schedules/trave...ched/index.jsp
Yes, DL is phasing out the 50-seaters and focusing more on larger RJs and 717s.
Yes, DL is phasing out the 50-seaters and focusing more on larger RJs and 717s.
Sep 12, 2013, 7:52 pm
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Its going to take a while to phase most of them out. The smaller markets will have the CRJs for the longest. The question will be what happens to those small markets... will they just get cut entirely?
Sep 12, 2013, 9:18 pm
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While all may hate them, they do serve a useful role in some smaller markets that can't support larger aircraft. Personally, I'd rather have the larger network with CR2 service than to see them dropped altogether from the fleet. A complete elimination of the CR2 fleet would mean a lot of small destinations get dropped completely, mainly smaller communities that are a ways from another airport. This is acutely true in upper Michigan having flights to MSP and/or DTW and out West, where there are smaller markets that get CR2 service through SLC.
Sep 12, 2013, 11:07 pm
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Delta is reducing the number of 50-seat RJs, but is not quickly "phasing them out."
Late last year, when DL ordered 40 more CRJ-900s, DL said this:
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1809
Phasing out 60 single class CRJ200s. So how many of the Devil's Chariots will remain?
http://news.yahoo.com/delta-orders-7...192921711.html
226 of them. Ouch. Unless jet fuel prices suddenly spike, DL (and UA, AA and UA) will be flying some 50-seaters for many years. If fuel prices were to skyrocket, then I suspect that the big airlines would ground most of their remaining 50-seaters in short order. But with today's high (but relatively stable) fuel prices, the phase-out of 50-seaters will take years.
Late last year, when DL ordered 40 more CRJ-900s, DL said this:
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) has finalized an agreement with Bombardier Aerospace that will allow the airline to continue restructuring its domestic fleet by replacing less efficient single-class 50-seat aircraft with new two-class 76-seat aircraft. As part of the agreement, Delta will acquire 40 new CRJ900 two-class regional jets, with the option to purchase an additional 30 CRJ900 aircraft, and Bombardier will assist Delta in phasing out 60 single-class CRJ200 aircraft.
Phasing out 60 single class CRJ200s. So how many of the Devil's Chariots will remain?
Delta spokesman Anthony Black said it isn't known yet which regional airline will fly the new planes, or which ones will be losing the 50-seaters. Delta will still have 226 of those CRJ-200s, even after it sends 60 back to Bombardier.
226 of them. Ouch. Unless jet fuel prices suddenly spike, DL (and UA, AA and UA) will be flying some 50-seaters for many years. If fuel prices were to skyrocket, then I suspect that the big airlines would ground most of their remaining 50-seaters in short order. But with today's high (but relatively stable) fuel prices, the phase-out of 50-seaters will take years.
Sep 12, 2013, 11:20 pm
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http://news.yahoo.com/delta-orders-7...192921711.html
226 of them. Ouch. Unless jet fuel prices suddenly spike, DL (and UA, AA and UA) will be flying some 50-seaters for many years. If fuel prices were to skyrocket, then I suspect that the big airlines would ground most of their remaining 50-seaters in short order. But with today's high (but relatively stable) fuel prices, the phase-out of 50-seaters will take years.
226 of them. Ouch. Unless jet fuel prices suddenly spike, DL (and UA, AA and UA) will be flying some 50-seaters for many years. If fuel prices were to skyrocket, then I suspect that the big airlines would ground most of their remaining 50-seaters in short order. But with today's high (but relatively stable) fuel prices, the phase-out of 50-seaters will take years.
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Sep 13, 2013, 4:51 am
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It's not a phase out, but a phase down.
Sep 13, 2013, 6:48 am
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If it weren't for the CRJ's, AZO would have no service at all. We've started to see some ERJ's in the past few months. They're equally miserable rides, but at least the interiors of those don't look like a beat up school bus. If the CRJ is being phased out, hopefully we'll still have the ERJ service. The airport manager keeps telling me that we're going to get the larger RJ's with 1st class cabins, but I'm not holding my breath.
Sep 13, 2013, 7:01 am
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Sep 13, 2013, 7:26 am
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If it weren't for the CRJ's, AZO would have no service at all. We've started to see some ERJ's in the past few months. They're equally miserable rides, but at least the interiors of those don't look like a beat up school bus. If the CRJ is being phased out, hopefully we'll still have the ERJ service. The airport manager keeps telling me that we're going to get the larger RJ's with 1st class cabins, but I'm not holding my breath.
I'll take an ERJ over a CR2 in a heartbeat, just because of the single-seat side. I'd also be completely shocked to see anything larger than a 50-seater in AZO.
Sep 13, 2013, 10:03 am
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If it weren't for the CRJ's, AZO would have no service at all. We've started to see some ERJ's in the past few months. They're equally miserable rides, but at least the interiors of those don't look like a beat up school bus. If the CRJ is being phased out, hopefully we'll still have the ERJ service. The airport manager keeps telling me that we're going to get the larger RJ's with 1st class cabins, but I'm not holding my breath.
Sep 13, 2013, 11:36 am
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Sep 13, 2013, 2:58 pm
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The 50-seat RJ is a terrible flying experience. This is actually one area where Delta is probably leading the pack. United and AA have boatloads of these in their network. The truly small communities are the only ones that are keeping them, and the only airports where it makes "sense." But in general, the US needs to switch away from regional flying and move towards rail. It's much cheaper and more efficient. The CR9's and E170/175's are really not a bad flying experience, and are the smallest plane I will book.