No MQD for Delta Vacations flights
Sep 12, 2013, 2:19 pm
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This thread just reminded me to use Delta vacations and with the 75$ platinum discount i basically got a free 3 star hotel and bonus miles too They also let you put a deposit and not pay everything at once
Sep 12, 2013, 2:20 pm
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Could you explain briefly what an IT fare is? I tried googling it but was unable to find out. Thanks again; I really appreciate your assistance.
Sep 12, 2013, 2:25 pm
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IT (Incentive Tour) or BULK is commonly shown for consolidator fares. DL provided special incentive (discount) for the fare and will not display it. The actual fare paid is in the contract with consolidator and not normally shown to customers.
Delta Vacations, which is a separate company, acted as DL consolidator in your case. Not sure about Delta, but I know United Vacations is a contracted third party travel agent, not part of UAL.
EDIT: It turns out that Delta Vacations is run by MLT Vacations. A third party travel agency which also runs United Vacations.
Delta Vacations, which is a separate company, acted as DL consolidator in your case. Not sure about Delta, but I know United Vacations is a contracted third party travel agent, not part of UAL.
EDIT: It turns out that Delta Vacations is run by MLT Vacations. A third party travel agency which also runs United Vacations.
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Sep 12, 2013, 2:33 pm
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IT (Incentive Tour) or BULK is common shown for consolidator fares. DL provided special incentive (discount) for the fare and will not display it. The actual fare paid is in the contract with consolidator. DL Vacation, which is a separate company, acted as DL consolidator in your case.
Sep 12, 2013, 2:37 pm
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That looks like Skymiles activity record after you have flown. That's only meaningful for Skymiles and MQM accrual.
Certain specialty tickets, including but not limited to unpublished, consolidator, group/tour and opaque fare products will not count toward MQDs.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...lars-faqs.html
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Sep 12, 2013, 2:51 pm
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Sep 12, 2013, 2:54 pm
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Consolidator fares are proprietary contract information between Delta and consolidators. Different consolidators may paid different fares for exactly the same itinerary, hence those fares are masked with IT or BULK to protect proprietary information.
Sep 12, 2013, 2:55 pm
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By contract, IT fares are not sold independently, they must include at least one land component. Some TAs do sell them stand alone by including a throw away hotel booking. Still, that cost needs to be separated out.Don't forget there is also consolidator markup or markdown. Consolidator fares are sold at fixed contract price. TAs are free to mark it up or down to sell them. What TAs tell you, if they do tell you, about your fare may be rather different from what Delta receives under their contract. The only way to know is to have access to their proprietary consolidator contract.
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Sep 12, 2013, 2:59 pm
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I appreciate you taking the time to explain some of this to me. I was aware of the quote from the MQD FAQ regarding certain tickets not counting toward MQDs, but I thought Delta Vacations would qualify as a "Delta channel." As you probably know DV is operated by MLT Travel, but nevertheless they do business under the Delta name. It seems a little misleading to purchase a ticket from Delta Vacations only to have Delta Airlines say that they won't count the money you spent on the airfare portion of the trip. Obviously Delta is still receiving the revenue from the airfare portion of the package. Yes, I know how naive this sounds : )
Sep 12, 2013, 3:11 pm
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MLT Vacations, in addition to DL and UA, also operates Aeromexico Vacations, AirFrance Holidays, Alitalia Vacations and others. They do business under many names.
Sep 12, 2013, 3:55 pm
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Not so fast. How do you separate out costs for hotels, car rentals, meals, sightseeing tours etc. By contract, IT fares are not sold independently, they must include at least one land component. Some TAs do sell them stand alone by including a throw away hotel booking. Still, that cost needs to be separated out.
Don't forget there is also consolidator markup or markdown. Consolidator fares are sold at fixed contract price. TAs are free to mark it up or down to sell them. What TAs tell you, if they do tell you, about your fare may be rather different from what Delta receives under their contract. The only way to know is to have access to their proprietary consolidator contract.
By contract, IT fares are not sold independently, they must include at least one land component. Some TAs do sell them stand alone by including a throw away hotel booking. Still, that cost needs to be separated out.Don't forget there is also consolidator markup or markdown. Consolidator fares are sold at fixed contract price. TAs are free to mark it up or down to sell them. What TAs tell you, if they do tell you, about your fare may be rather different from what Delta receives under their contract. The only way to know is to have access to their proprietary consolidator contract.
Sep 12, 2013, 4:35 pm
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Sep 12, 2013, 7:19 pm
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I appreciate you taking the time to explain some of this to me. I was aware of the quote from the MQD FAQ regarding certain tickets not counting toward MQDs, but I thought Delta Vacations would qualify as a "Delta channel." As you probably know DV is operated by MLT Travel, but nevertheless they do business under the Delta name. It seems a little misleading to purchase a ticket from Delta Vacations only to have Delta Airlines say that they won't count the money you spent on the airfare portion of the trip. Obviously Delta is still receiving the revenue from the airfare portion of the package. Yes, I know how naive this sounds : )
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