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It is going on at a number of airports across the country.
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Pilot Program at BOS TSA Checkpoint
The agents I spoke with said that this was completely DL's idea and the people on the TSA side were generally unhappy as well. They asked me to complain to Delta.
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If this was Delta's idea, then I hope Delta gets the idea that Pre-Check should be the rule, not the exception, for all passengers at all times.
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Originally Posted by Peatisback
(Post 21317547)
The agents I spoke with said that this was completely DL's idea and the people on the TSA side were generally unhappy as well. They asked me to complain to Delta.
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This is a TSA program. One TSA officer I overheard is not happy about it because they are worried they will be blamed for any security failures.
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Originally Posted by Peatisback
(Post 21317547)
The agents I spoke with said that this was completely DL's idea and the people on the TSA side were generally unhappy as well. They asked me to complain to Delta.
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
(Post 21317961)
This is a TSA program. One TSA officer I overheard is not happy about it because they are worried they will be blamed for any security failures.
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Just went through the junkshow that is this "beta".
Is it too much to ask for consistency? Things would be much clearer for passengers and much easier for the TSA employees if they put up a few extra signs isntead of just snake the guardrails all willy-nilly to put people in certain places and then randomly pull some out to go through a different version of security. I'm with Spiff though, they may as well hurry up and have Pre be the way that everyone goes through. |
I had a similar experience in AUS this AM. There were 12 people in the PreCheck credentials line. All but 2 were diverted to the regular screening. Only myself and the guy in front of me were sent to the PC magnetometer.
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I have heard it is slated to be tried at DEN, though don't know if has begun yet.
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Originally Posted by McGoogles
(Post 21318670)
Just went through the junkshow that is this "beta".
Is it too much to ask for consistency? Things would be much clearer for passengers and much easier for the TSA employees if they put up a few extra signs isntead of just snake the guardrails all willy-nilly to put people in certain places and then randomly pull some out to go through a different version of security. I'm with Spiff though, they may as well hurry up and have Pre be the way that everyone goes through. |
Originally Posted by jsmith50
(Post 21322731)
If you want to experiment, don't do it by slowing down the lane set aside for frequent travelers who have been vetted and are more efficient and the whole security process!
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Originally Posted by jsmith50
(Post 21322731)
But this is precisely the lack of clarity I think TSA is going for here. Someone who plans on hijacking an airplane will be more successful if they can game the security system. If there is inherent unpredictability to security, i.e. "snake the guardrails all willy-nilly to put people in certain places and then randomly pull some out to go through a different version of security" it becomes more difficult plan for in advance. Personally, I have absolutely no problem with the unpredictability of TSA, I just wish they'd leave the Pre Check lanes alone. The reason I do Pre to begin with is that I can avoid the mobs of infrequent travelers who are still trying to figure out that they need to collapse their strollers, take out their liquids, remove their computers, take off their belts and shoes, etc., etc., etc. If you want to experiment, don't do it by slowing down the lane set aside for frequent travelers who have been vetted and are more efficient and the whole security process!
All should receive Pre-Check. There's no need for "vetting" either. The overwhelming number of people are not terrorists. I like this new program and hope that either it will become the norm as it should, or private security will replace TSA and implement it. Delta, if you're reading this, please remember that improving the current "security" experience for all will improve your bottom line. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 21322809)
I have a huge problem with so-called "unpredicitability", since it's a huge waste of time and of my resources. There's no need for such idiocy if simple, non-intrusive, effective screening for guns and bombs is done the first time.
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I just zipped right thru at Logan. That said, there was one French family that used the same metal detector but had been made to remove their shoes etc at an adjacent X-ray machine.
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