Delta and Virgin Atlantic Partnership
Jun 24, 2013, 4:20 pm
#76
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Yes annoyingly the MQM link doesn't work yet. Here are some answers to some questions though from the FAQs: http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ntic-faqs.html .
Members can earn miles on Virgin Atlantic flights or may use miles for an Award Ticket for travel on or after July 3, 2013. Flights will be available for booking on June 29, 2013.
Jun 24, 2013, 4:25 pm
#77
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: DL DM, TK Elite (*Gold), AA EXP (matched and prob not for long!)
Posts: 251
In other news, is anyone else surprised that VS left all of the destinations ex-Atlanta out of this initial codeshare?
From the VS site, they are saying you can now book the DL LHR flights (MSP, DTW, ATL) direct from VS including it seems the additional frequencies DL can now provide on JFK and BOS. But as far as connections in the US they are only showing connections from JFK, BOS, and LAX...see here: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...nes/delta.html .
Why wouldn't they include all the ATL connections???
Jun 24, 2013, 4:26 pm
#78
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: DFW
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June 29th.
In other news, is anyone else surprised that VS left all of the destinations ex-Atlanta out of this initial codeshare?
From the VS site, they are saying you can now book the DL LHR flights (MSP, DTW, ATL) direct from VS including it seems the additional frequencies DL can now provide on JFK and BOS. But as far as connections in the US they are only showing connections from JFK, BOS, and LAX...see here: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...nes/delta.html .
Why wouldn't they include all the ATL connections???
In other news, is anyone else surprised that VS left all of the destinations ex-Atlanta out of this initial codeshare?
From the VS site, they are saying you can now book the DL LHR flights (MSP, DTW, ATL) direct from VS including it seems the additional frequencies DL can now provide on JFK and BOS. But as far as connections in the US they are only showing connections from JFK, BOS, and LAX...see here: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...nes/delta.html .
Why wouldn't they include all the ATL connections???
Jun 24, 2013, 4:48 pm
#79
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: DL DM, TK Elite (*Gold), AA EXP (matched and prob not for long!)
Posts: 251
Jun 24, 2013, 4:49 pm
#80
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: England
Programs: Executive Club Silver
Posts: 711
A major problem is that now there will be a load of rednecks wearing sandals and socks cluttering up the Clubhouse at Heathrow. Many advantages of course.
Virgin customers now have access to Atlanta, Detroit and Minneapolis, and whilst they may not be desirable leisure destinations they may suite business people. Domestic codeshares can be provided, which also seems good.
From the Delta point of view they can attract more UK based passengers, their brand awareness is significantly lower than AA and UA/CO in the UK. They may also perform better on the LHR-JFK route, where DL prices are significantly cheaper than BA/AA. Also a few slots perhaps, SEA-LHR perhaps?
This can narrow VS/DL huge gap between BA/AA in the UK-US market, together they will probably provide more fierce competition than the current arrangement. In regards to US-Greater Europe then DL has a far better network with AF/KL being good partners
Virgin customers now have access to Atlanta, Detroit and Minneapolis, and whilst they may not be desirable leisure destinations they may suite business people. Domestic codeshares can be provided, which also seems good.
From the Delta point of view they can attract more UK based passengers, their brand awareness is significantly lower than AA and UA/CO in the UK. They may also perform better on the LHR-JFK route, where DL prices are significantly cheaper than BA/AA. Also a few slots perhaps, SEA-LHR perhaps?
This can narrow VS/DL huge gap between BA/AA in the UK-US market, together they will probably provide more fierce competition than the current arrangement. In regards to US-Greater Europe then DL has a far better network with AF/KL being good partners
Jun 24, 2013, 6:33 pm
#82
Join Date: Jan 2013
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According to the Delta website:
It seems that SC members (and those holding the Delta Reserve AmEx card) won't have entry. Correct?
Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse lounge access is available to BusinessElite® or Upper Class passengers and Diamond or Platinum Medallion® members on same-day travel when flying on a Virgin Atlantic- or Delta-operated transatlantic flight to or from the U.K. Plus, Diamond and Platinum Medallion members are allowed to bring one guest. Clubhouses are located at London Heathrow, London Gatwick, New York-JFK, Newark, Washington, Boston and San Francisco airports. Please travel with and be prepared to show your Medallion card to the Virgin Atlantic representative to receive Clubhouse lounge access.
Jun 24, 2013, 6:46 pm
#83
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SUX
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I suspect that once the JV is approved, there will be reciprocal codesharing on almost every route between the US and UK. The initial codeshare relationship is a smaller endeavor, typically.
Jun 24, 2013, 7:00 pm
#84
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: LAS
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Jun 24, 2013, 9:53 pm
#85
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Jun 24, 2013, 11:16 pm
#86
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
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**Waits for someone to give me and other poster some huge spiel about how he has the right to wear what he wants and no one has the right to judge him blah blah blah-honestly, as we have covered in previous thread, money does NOT buy you class!
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Jun 24, 2013, 11:34 pm
#87
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SEA, NW/DL 1.6Million Miler
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Interline Agreement for baggage?
Do I need to be concerned whether Virgin Atlantic would have Interline agreement for my baggage transfer, if I obtain an itinerary routing from AMS to LHR to YVR to SEA? The AMS - LHR route is KLM, and YVR SEA route is Alaska/Horizon.
I wouldn't be surprised with KLM segment but maybe not Alaska. Maybe this is too early to tackle on this expectations and book this routing.
Jiburi
I wouldn't be surprised with KLM segment but maybe not Alaska. Maybe this is too early to tackle on this expectations and book this routing.
Jiburi
Jun 25, 2013, 12:39 am
#88
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: TLV
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This is all about New York. It is a real war in that market to get the premium pax - this is why AA, UA and DL all are offering flatbed transcons from there. DL was in last place in the NY to London market which is the only reason they did this.
Jun 25, 2013, 12:49 am
#89
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BUR
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Yeah, that is part of it. Delta has a lot of "trash" being thrown the way of what is typically is a very classy, very high-brown premium cabin. The lounges as well. I can honestly say that I have never seen a shorts/flip flops/Tommy Bahama Shirt wearing individual in business on a Virgin flight nor in a Virgin Clubhouse (the exception would be the LHR-BGI flight, but thats self explanatory). Thats not to say anyone that dresses like that is "trashy", but you should be able to read between the lines as to what me and the other poster mean.
**Waits for someone to give me and other poster some huge spiel about how he has the right to wear what he wants and no one has the right to judge him blah blah blah-honestly, as we have covered in previous thread, money does NOT buy you class! ).
**Waits for someone to give me and other poster some huge spiel about how he has the right to wear what he wants and no one has the right to judge him blah blah blah-honestly, as we have covered in previous thread, money does NOT buy you class!
).
Last edited by Oakshadow; Jun 25, 2013 at 12:58 am
Jun 25, 2013, 2:11 am
#90
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A Virgin Atlantic passenger cannot get to Atlanta on a Virgin Atlantic flight, so there are no Virgin Atlantic passengers arriving there that would benefit from having these onward codeshares you are talking about.
