Delta and Virgin Atlantic Partnership
Dec 1, 2017, 1:00 am
#676
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: DL DM 2MM, BA Bronze, Various Hotels
Posts: 10,187
On one of my recent VS flights in PE, the FAs said they no longer give out the Herschel amenity kits on daytime flights.
Dec 1, 2017, 5:10 am
#677
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Mostly living in the basement
Programs: Newly minted free agent; MR LT(!)TE, HH SE, BA SECM, DL MM, UA PS, 2V Fanboi, CBP GE
Posts: 5,106
Dec 1, 2017, 6:50 am
#678
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: DL DM 2MM, BA Bronze, Various Hotels
Posts: 10,187
Dec 4, 2017, 12:40 pm
#679
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Feb 7, 2018, 5:27 pm
#680
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: DL PM/MM, Hilton Silver, SPG+, Hertz PC
Posts: 7,898
The other night, coming back LHR-LAX-OAK on VS, I was planning to use the Clubhouse in T2. I was rejected: Lady said that due to the lounge small size only those flying UC are allowed in on inbound flights. GM/PM/DM only have access when flying out to the UK.
This is in contrast with what the Delta-Virgin Atlantic Partnership webpage says. I have asked Delta to clarify whether the webpage needs amending, or the VS lady needs training.
This is in contrast with what the Delta-Virgin Atlantic Partnership webpage says. I have asked Delta to clarify whether the webpage needs amending, or the VS lady needs training.
Feb 28, 2018, 2:35 am
#681
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SEA, ATL
Programs: Hyatt Globalist -> AA Executive Platinum, BAEC Gold, Spirit Lifetime Somebody
Posts: 131
The other night, coming back LHR-LAX-OAK on VS, I was planning to use the Clubhouse in T2. I was rejected: Lady said that due to the lounge small size only those flying UC are allowed in on inbound flights. GM/PM/DM only have access when flying out to the UK.
This is in contrast with what the Delta-Virgin Atlantic Partnership webpage says. I have asked Delta to clarify whether the webpage needs amending, or the VS lady needs training.
This is in contrast with what the Delta-Virgin Atlantic Partnership webpage says. I have asked Delta to clarify whether the webpage needs amending, or the VS lady needs training.
Feb 28, 2018, 5:44 am
#682
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
I was able to access the Virgin lounge at LHR as a Delta diamond flying Delta economy-class during the late-morning hours in November 2017.
Feb 28, 2018, 5:12 pm
#683
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: Waffle House DM
Posts: 466
Delta Gold, Platinum and Diamond get Virgin lounge access regardless of class flown. One guest allowed, did it as a Platinum last week (interestingly my Virgin boarding pass still said Diamond - my 2017 status).
Feb 28, 2018, 5:29 pm
#684
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 8,414
Except that GM's only get access to clubhouses in the US. Only Diamonds and Plats can use the LHR clubhouse. Golds have to use No 1 Lounges. This is not a Sky Team Elite benefit, but a special partnership.
Last edited by jdrtravel; Feb 28, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Feb 28, 2018, 5:36 pm
#685
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Apr 4, 2018, 8:18 am
#686
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cape Town, WC
Programs: AF LTP, LH Sen, M Amb
Posts: 400
New Economy Fares
I'm surprised there is no discussion about new economy fares on Virgin Atlantic.
What is an implementation of 3 new VS economy fares for DL Skymiles elite? That's what bothers me honestly.
Previously as a Diamond member you could book any economy fare and get to choose an extra legroom seat for free.
Now VS has 3 economy fares:
- economy Light (no seat assignment)
- economy Classic (standard seats for free)
- economy Delight (extra legroom seats)
Do you get upgraded to economy Delight (as you do to Comfort+) or just get no more seating privileges?
With mileage earnings it's even more confusing. VS would credit miles depending not on a fare class, but based on the experience you choose:
- economy Light 25% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Classic 50% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Delight 150% (can be booked into O and higher)
So any experience is booked into same booking class, what matters is the fare code and the fare code (corresponding to an experience onboard) dictates the number of miles you earn.
Delta has updated mileage earning chard for VS starting April 10, 2018, but I struggle to understand what they meant.
They list T as economy Light, when in fact any economy booking class could be booked as light, not only T.
They list N O just as deep discounted when they could be light, classic and delight.
They list V as economy Delight, when again it could be Light or Classic as well.
What is an implementation of 3 new VS economy fares for DL Skymiles elite? That's what bothers me honestly.
Previously as a Diamond member you could book any economy fare and get to choose an extra legroom seat for free.
Now VS has 3 economy fares:
- economy Light (no seat assignment)
- economy Classic (standard seats for free)
- economy Delight (extra legroom seats)
Do you get upgraded to economy Delight (as you do to Comfort+) or just get no more seating privileges?
With mileage earnings it's even more confusing. VS would credit miles depending not on a fare class, but based on the experience you choose:
- economy Light 25% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Classic 50% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Delight 150% (can be booked into O and higher)
So any experience is booked into same booking class, what matters is the fare code and the fare code (corresponding to an experience onboard) dictates the number of miles you earn.
Delta has updated mileage earning chard for VS starting April 10, 2018, but I struggle to understand what they meant.
They list T as economy Light, when in fact any economy booking class could be booked as light, not only T.
They list N O just as deep discounted when they could be light, classic and delight.
They list V as economy Delight, when again it could be Light or Classic as well.
Apr 5, 2018, 4:41 am
#687
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: DL DM 2MM, BA Bronze, Various Hotels
Posts: 10,187
I'm surprised there is no discussion about new economy fares on Virgin Atlantic.
What is an implementation of 3 new VS economy fares for DL Skymiles elite? That's what bothers me honestly.
Previously as a Diamond member you could book any economy fare and get to choose an extra legroom seat for free.
Now VS has 3 economy fares:
- economy Light (no seat assignment)
- economy Classic (standard seats for free)
- economy Delight (extra legroom seats)
Do you get upgraded to economy Delight (as you do to Comfort+) or just get no more seating privileges?
With mileage earnings it's even more confusing. VS would credit miles depending not on a fare class, but based on the experience you choose:
- economy Light 25% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Classic 50% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Delight 150% (can be booked into O and higher)
So any experience is booked into same booking class, what matters is the fare code and the fare code (corresponding to an experience onboard) dictates the number of miles you earn.
Delta has updated mileage earning chard for VS starting April 10, 2018, but I struggle to understand what they meant.
They list T as economy Light, when in fact any economy booking class could be booked as light, not only T.
They list N O just as deep discounted when they could be light, classic and delight.
They list V as economy Delight, when again it could be Light or Classic as well.
What is an implementation of 3 new VS economy fares for DL Skymiles elite? That's what bothers me honestly.
Previously as a Diamond member you could book any economy fare and get to choose an extra legroom seat for free.
Now VS has 3 economy fares:
- economy Light (no seat assignment)
- economy Classic (standard seats for free)
- economy Delight (extra legroom seats)
Do you get upgraded to economy Delight (as you do to Comfort+) or just get no more seating privileges?
With mileage earnings it's even more confusing. VS would credit miles depending not on a fare class, but based on the experience you choose:
- economy Light 25% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Classic 50% (can be booked into O and higher)
- economy Delight 150% (can be booked into O and higher)
So any experience is booked into same booking class, what matters is the fare code and the fare code (corresponding to an experience onboard) dictates the number of miles you earn.
Delta has updated mileage earning chard for VS starting April 10, 2018, but I struggle to understand what they meant.
They list T as economy Light, when in fact any economy booking class could be booked as light, not only T.
They list N O just as deep discounted when they could be light, classic and delight.
They list V as economy Delight, when again it could be Light or Classic as well.
Apr 30, 2018, 8:23 am
#688
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: ua 1k, hh diamond, spg PLT, marriott PLT
Posts: 617
quick question i couldn't find anywhere else. If i'm a DL Diamond and i book a flight on DL metal with VS miles, do i get DL Diamond benefits (upgrade to C+) or am I treated with no status?
Apr 30, 2018, 8:39 am
#689
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,040
It depends if DL is able to enter your SM into the reservation. Give DL a call and ask if they can add it. If so you should be good as mileage awards are booked under the DL code for Delta operated flights.
