Sky Club Access (2009 - June 2022)
Jul 24, 2017, 8:24 am
#556
Join Date: May 2013
Location: RMS
Programs: DL Plat, UA Gold, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Credit Card Diamond
Posts: 8,782
I'm not sure which PP membership you have, but if it's through any of the major credit cards offering it (Amex Plat, Chase Sapphire Reserve, or Citi Prestige), I think they all offer two free guests now. This was a recent change for the Amex Plat.
Jul 24, 2017, 9:14 am
#557
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
I have a corporate PL AMEX (+ personal DL PL AMEX that does not offer PP). My PP account used to say "select" but I do not see that on the digital card.
Edited to say that @mattp1987 is correct. The PP app would not provide this info so I went to the web and see that it is no problem to guest my spouse on this trip. I do not know when this changed because I had to pay for my spouse late last year.
Last edited by Xeno; Jul 24, 2017 at 9:33 am
Jul 30, 2017, 6:02 am
#558
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
Thank you. I must investigate this.
I have a corporate PL AMEX (+ personal DL PL AMEX that does not offer PP). My PP account used to say "select" but I do not see that on the digital card.
Edited to say that @mattp1987 is correct. The PP app would not provide this info so I went to the web and see that it is no problem to guest my spouse on this trip. I do not know when this changed because I had to pay for my spouse late last year.
I have a corporate PL AMEX (+ personal DL PL AMEX that does not offer PP). My PP account used to say "select" but I do not see that on the digital card.
Edited to say that @mattp1987 is correct. The PP app would not provide this info so I went to the web and see that it is no problem to guest my spouse on this trip. I do not know when this changed because I had to pay for my spouse late last year.
At the moment, it looks like we fly out of ATL F for ATL-OKC so can I guest her into the SC or must I go to "The Club" at F?
If no SC for spouse then I guess that means when my DM SC membership expires - that is not selecting this option for 2018 DM choice benefits - that I will not be able to get into DL SC in the USA, right?
Last edited by Xeno; Jul 30, 2017 at 9:59 am
Jul 30, 2017, 7:21 am
#559
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,013
I just tried to guest spouse into MCO SC and was told they do not take PP. Spouse did not want to go to The Club.
At the moment, it looks like we fly out of ATL F for ATL-FCO so can I guest her into the SC or must I go to "The Club" at F?
If no SC for spouse then I guess that means when my DM SC membership expires that I will not be able to get into DL SC in the USA, right?
At the moment, it looks like we fly out of ATL F for ATL-FCO so can I guest her into the SC or must I go to "The Club" at F?
If no SC for spouse then I guess that means when my DM SC membership expires that I will not be able to get into DL SC in the USA, right?
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-of-terms.html
Jul 30, 2017, 7:29 am
#560
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
If you're STE+ and you're flying MCO-ATL-FCO then you are entitled to one guest at the MCO and ATL skyclubs.
If no SC for spouse then I guess that means when my DM SC membership expires that I will not be able to get into DL SC in the USA, right?
Jul 30, 2017, 9:58 am
#561
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
First, sorry for the typo or auto-correct as I meant to type OKC not FCO.
90% of my flights are D1.. On the occasional domestic flight I do not have to worry about SC when alone because of being DM
To get my spouse into F for this 3 hour layover, I paid $29 using my DL PL AMEX.
The more important point for me is what happens when I have the option of not taking SC membership as an option for being DM in 2018. The last time I needed to use PP to get into a SC it worked, but I have no memory of when that was so apparently it was prior to 2009.
When I return home, I need to find the thread that explains why so many 2018 DMs were quite happy to give up DM SC membership.
90% of my flights are D1.. On the occasional domestic flight I do not have to worry about SC when alone because of being DM
To get my spouse into F for this 3 hour layover, I paid $29 using my DL PL AMEX.
The more important point for me is what happens when I have the option of not taking SC membership as an option for being DM in 2018. The last time I needed to use PP to get into a SC it worked, but I have no memory of when that was so apparently it was prior to 2009.
When I return home, I need to find the thread that explains why so many 2018 DMs were quite happy to give up DM SC membership.
Jul 30, 2017, 10:05 am
#562
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,882
The short version is, if you have another means of entry (DL Reserve AMEX, unbranded Plat AMEX) you effectively get a third Choice Benefit (the tradeoff being, Sky Club access only when flying DL)
Jul 30, 2017, 10:17 am
#563
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,033
First, sorry for the typo or auto-correct as I meant to type OKC not FCO.
90% of my flights are D1.. On the occasional domestic flight I do not have to worry about SC when alone because of being DM
To get my spouse into F for this 3 hour layover, I paid $29 using my DL PL AMEX.
The more important point for me is what happens when I have the option of not taking SC membership as an option for being DM in 2018. The last time I needed to use PP to get into a SC it worked, but I have no memory of when that was so apparently it was prior to 2009.
When I return home, I need to find the thread that explains why so many 2018 DMs were quite happy to give up DM SC membership.
90% of my flights are D1.. On the occasional domestic flight I do not have to worry about SC when alone because of being DM
To get my spouse into F for this 3 hour layover, I paid $29 using my DL PL AMEX.
The more important point for me is what happens when I have the option of not taking SC membership as an option for being DM in 2018. The last time I needed to use PP to get into a SC it worked, but I have no memory of when that was so apparently it was prior to 2009.
When I return home, I need to find the thread that explains why so many 2018 DMs were quite happy to give up DM SC membership.
Jul 30, 2017, 3:33 pm
#564
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
I am not inclined to move from this particular AMEX to the Reserve card since I use PP a great deal outside the USA.
Last edited by Xeno; Jul 30, 2017 at 3:41 pm
Jul 30, 2017, 8:06 pm
#565
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,013
I think you are missing the point. The individual SC membership that came with DM status didn't allow for guests either. So if you already have a Plat Amex or DL Amex Reserve, most people would like another Choice Benefit instead as the individual membership provides little additional value (you can't combine multiple forms of entry to bring in a guest). So they have now added a third choice benefit instead, and one of the new options is a SC "guest pass" option to bring in up to two guests with a Plat Amex or Amex Reserve card.
Jul 31, 2017, 5:55 am
#566
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
I think you are missing the point. The individual SC membership that came with DM status didn't allow for guests either. So if you already have a Plat Amex or DL Amex Reserve, most people would like another Choice Benefit instead as the individual membership provides little additional value (you can't combine multiple forms of entry to bring in a guest). So they have now added a third choice benefit instead, and one of the new options is a SC "guest pass" option to bring in up to two guests with a Plat Amex or Amex Reserve card.
I am seeking clarity on why my unbranded corporate PL AMEX did not allow me to guest my spouse if your account of DL's policy is correct. For example, is this particular AMEX excluded because it is a corporate card that gives me a PP membership?
Jul 31, 2017, 6:36 am
#567
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ATL
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Perhaps we are talking past one another. DM gave temporarily an executive SC membership which was downgraded to an individual membership with no guesting privileges. I am not confused on that point nor how choice benefits work for 2018 DMs.
I am seeking clarity on why my unbranded corporate PL AMEX did not allow me to guest my spouse if your account of DL's policy is correct. For example, is this particular AMEX excluded because it is a corporate card that gives me a PP membership?
I am seeking clarity on why my unbranded corporate PL AMEX did not allow me to guest my spouse if your account of DL's policy is correct. For example, is this particular AMEX excluded because it is a corporate card that gives me a PP membership?
The Amex cards (unbranded Plat or DL Reserve) do NOT provide free access for anyone other than the person named on the card. Even if the cardholder has access by other means (membership, status, premium cabin ticket, another credit card), you cannot "pass off" your Amex-provided access to a companion.
Priority Pass does not apply at all to this situation because DL Skyclubs are not part of the PP network. The PP benefit of some Amex cards is completely separate and in addition to DL lounge access.
Jul 31, 2017, 8:16 am
#568
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,882
Oddly, the Sky Club page does not list the unbranded AMEX Plat under "NUMBER OF GUESTS PERMITTED WHEN ACCESSING A DELTA SKY CLUB":
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-of-terms.html
However if you expand the section above for Platinum Cardholders from American Express, it does say: "... Platinum American Express cardholders may enter the club with up to two guests for an additional fee."
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-of-terms.html
However if you expand the section above for Platinum Cardholders from American Express, it does say: "... Platinum American Express cardholders may enter the club with up to two guests for an additional fee."
Jul 31, 2017, 8:32 am
#569
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,013
Perhaps we are talking past one another. DM gave temporarily an executive SC membership which was downgraded to an individual membership with no guesting privileges. I am not confused on that point nor how choice benefits work for 2018 DMs.
I am seeking clarity on why my unbranded corporate PL AMEX did not allow me to guest my spouse if your account of DL's policy is correct. For example, is this particular AMEX excluded because it is a corporate card that gives me a PP membership?
I am seeking clarity on why my unbranded corporate PL AMEX did not allow me to guest my spouse if your account of DL's policy is correct. For example, is this particular AMEX excluded because it is a corporate card that gives me a PP membership?
Jul 31, 2017, 10:08 am
#570
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
Your corporate unbranded platinum Amex should have allowed you to purchase a single-entry guest pass to the DL Skyclub for your spouse for $29.
The Amex cards (unbranded Plat or DL Reserve) do NOT provide free access for anyone other than the person named on the card. Even if the cardholder has access by other means (membership, status, premium cabin ticket, another credit card), you cannot "pass off" your Amex-provided access to a companion.
Priority Pass does not apply at all to this situation because DL Skyclubs are not part of the PP network. The PP benefit of some Amex cards is completely separate and in addition to DL lounge access.
The Amex cards (unbranded Plat or DL Reserve) do NOT provide free access for anyone other than the person named on the card. Even if the cardholder has access by other means (membership, status, premium cabin ticket, another credit card), you cannot "pass off" your Amex-provided access to a companion.
Priority Pass does not apply at all to this situation because DL Skyclubs are not part of the PP network. The PP benefit of some Amex cards is completely separate and in addition to DL lounge access.
The point I must now pursue is if my unbranded corporate PL AMEX will give me SC access so I can select something else as one of three DM choice benefits. I used DM for access at the MCO SC.
While flying yesterday, I misread @LBJ upthread who I thought suggested an unbranded PT AMEX also provided guest privileges different than the $29 when using DL PL AMEX.
Of course, I could have used The Club at MCO (but spouse said no) and I did not want the ATL F Club because ATL F SC is one of my favorites.
