Question for Million Millers at Delta
Jun 13, 2013, 4:53 pm
#16
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Yes, but UA MM only counts BIS miles.
DL is crappy to MM though. They could do two things and I would love the MM program there. 1. Give SkyPriority to MM and 2. Give better UG priority within elite level to MM (above Reserve card).
I do like the Hartman luggage, it fits nicely in the CRJ900's.
DL is crappy to MM though. They could do two things and I would love the MM program there. 1. Give SkyPriority to MM and 2. Give better UG priority within elite level to MM (above Reserve card).
I do like the Hartman luggage, it fits nicely in the CRJ900's.
Jun 14, 2013, 6:36 am
#17
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Jun 14, 2013, 7:35 am
#18
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Jun 14, 2013, 8:02 am
#19
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Dream on! 2MM here. DL has a terrible MM program... a complete slap in the face to anyone who's shown loyalty to DL over the years. It's one of the main reasons I never fly them..... along with
1. Terrible award availability
2. Terrible award booking engine
3. No international UGs on reasonable fares.
4. No flat bed J yet on many international flights.
5. No international F
6. No IFLs
7. SDC policy
8. No partner awards on international F
9. Stealth elimination of complimentary SC membership for Asian GMs.
10. No OW awards
11. No close in award cancellations or changes
12. SC Beverages
Oh.... and a complete lack of a candor (to put it generously) on the part of management.
Pretty good airline though if you need to fLy ATL<>DTW once a year.
1. Terrible award availability
2. Terrible award booking engine
3. No international UGs on reasonable fares.
4. No flat bed J yet on many international flights.
5. No international F
6. No IFLs
7. SDC policy
8. No partner awards on international F
9. Stealth elimination of complimentary SC membership for Asian GMs.
10. No OW awards
11. No close in award cancellations or changes
12. SC Beverages
Oh.... and a complete lack of a candor (to put it generously) on the part of management.
Pretty good airline though if you need to fLy ATL<>DTW once a year.
Jun 14, 2013, 8:50 am
#20
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I find that I get pretty good award availability due to DM status - far better than those with lower or no status. Perhaps better award availability could be added as a benefit for those with MM status.
As others have noted - when the MM program rolled out FO meant something - maybe not much but something. Since FO has repeatedly been downgraded perhaps MM should be lifetime GM instead of FO.
And the Tumi bags are better than the Hartmann
but if Delta really loved us they would add Zero Halliburton luggage 
As others have noted - when the MM program rolled out FO meant something - maybe not much but something. Since FO has repeatedly been downgraded perhaps MM should be lifetime GM instead of FO.
And the Tumi bags are better than the Hartmann
but if Delta really loved us they would add Zero Halliburton luggage
Jun 14, 2013, 10:10 am
#21
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I find that I get pretty good award availability due to DM status - far better than those with lower or no status. Perhaps better award availability could be added as a benefit for those with MM status.
As others have noted - when the MM program rolled out FO meant something - maybe not much but something. Since FO has repeatedly been downgraded perhaps MM should be lifetime GM instead of FO.
And the Tumi bags are better than the Hartmann but if Delta really loved us they would add Zero Halliburton luggage
As others have noted - when the MM program rolled out FO meant something - maybe not much but something. Since FO has repeatedly been downgraded perhaps MM should be lifetime GM instead of FO.
And the Tumi bags are better than the Hartmann
but if Delta really loved us they would add Zero Halliburton luggage
Jun 14, 2013, 10:13 am
#22
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Remember that the enhanced availability is only for domestic coach awards. I've observed it but I wouldn't generally use miles this way.
Jun 14, 2013, 12:56 pm
#23
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I would settle for the PM alone.
Complementary Sky Club membership for every 2 MM-er would only further muck up a situation that is already almost totally mucked up.
And, considering the current condition of the clubs, adding SC membership would almost demean the award.
Complementary Sky Club membership for every 2 MM-er would only further muck up a situation that is already almost totally mucked up.
And, considering the current condition of the clubs, adding SC membership would almost demean the award.
Jun 14, 2013, 1:05 pm
#24
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Not true. It also helps on international coach awards. Example - - Aug 14-26 DTW-FCO non-stop roundtrip has availability at the 60,000 level when I'm logged in (and select I am traveling), but it's 77,500 miles when I'm not logged in.
Jun 14, 2013, 1:14 pm
#25
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I've booked 3 domestic flights and one international for others this week. For the 3 domestic I found flights at 25K when I was logged in but they cost 40K when I bought them for others. I didn't find a difference on the international flight - but was pretty constrained for dates, times and locations so I didn't have much to work with.
Jun 14, 2013, 1:22 pm
#26
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UA has done much to screw their elites, but they did hit a home run for 1 million milers. Gold status plus the ability to share the status with a spouse or partner.
Jun 14, 2013, 1:28 pm
#27
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I've booked 3 domestic flights and one international for others this week. For the 3 domestic I found flights at 25K when I was logged in but they cost 40K when I bought them for others. I didn't find a difference on the international flight - but was pretty constrained for dates, times and locations so I didn't have much to work with.
Jun 14, 2013, 1:38 pm
#28
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I almost exclusively use miles for international flights. Priced flights this week for Sydney in August, Hong Kong in September and Scotland in October from ATL. For the dates I need, they price out exactly the same logged in or not. This has historically been the trend I have seen. I have never once observed a pricing difference despite my 'status' with DL. They know that outstanding SMs on their books are a financial hit and I'm sure they want us to burn as many as possible on each redemption.
Just checked DTW-SYD and found availability for 100,000 miles from 8/20 - 8/27 when logged in and selecting 'I am traveling'. After logging out and restarting my session, the best available option was 140,000 miles. I think it's pretty clear for coach tickets there is some enhanced availablility on international flights when logged in and selecting 'I am traveling'.
Last edited by xliioper; Jun 14, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Jun 14, 2013, 1:43 pm
#29
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You did not say whether these are BE flights or not. You can check the example I gave above for yourself. I also booked 3 tickets for DTW-AMS earlier this year and was able to get them at the 60,000 level when logged in and selecting 'I am traveling', but they were not available at that level otherwise. So the DTW-FCO example above is not an isolated example.
Jun 14, 2013, 2:24 pm
#30
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