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Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information

Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,

Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information

N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.

Fleet Notes:

Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
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Old May 5, 2015, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
Well I guess this is the reduction in capacity for Asia that was announced not too long ago. Downgauging to 767s is pretty disappointing for a TPAC and the long NRT-SIN flight.
At least there has not been a reduction in frequency or additional route droppings. (Hard to believe Delta has dumped the Japan-GUM/SPN/ROR flying yet if they losing that much money because of the Yen). The only saving grace is that there will be some increased slack in the 777 fleet, enabling Delta to complete all wifi installations on the aircraft by the end of the winter schedule, if not earlier. Due to the number of 767s, I believe the 767 fleet will be the last to be completed while the 747 and A330 fleet is already finished. The new A333s will have wifi installed upon delivery.
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Old May 5, 2015, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by deltaflyer08
Just updated the Wikipost, it looks as if DTW-PVG is switching back to a 772 from 10/25/2015 onwards.
This is extremely disappointing. I just spent two days in mainland China and am back in HKG but was looking at flying into PVG from DTW in early Nov. One of the attractions for me was the 747 but without the 747, I will look around for alternatives as I was seeking one last run on a 747.
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I fly the MNL NRT MNL flight monthly, any idea what the equipment plans are for this route?
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Old May 6, 2015, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by craig44485
I fly the MNL NRT MNL flight monthly, any idea what the equipment plans are for this route?
The route will maintain the 747 as it can fill up the rear.
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Old May 6, 2015, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by Longboater
At least there has not been a reduction in frequency or additional route droppings. (Hard to believe Delta has dumped the Japan-GUM/SPN/ROR flying yet if they losing that much money because of the Yen). The only saving grace is that there will be some increased slack in the 777 fleet, enabling Delta to complete all wifi installations on the aircraft by the end of the winter schedule, if not earlier. Due to the number of 767s, I believe the 767 fleet will be the last to be completed while the 747 and A330 fleet is already finished. The new A333s will have wifi installed upon delivery.
I would think/assume they do pretty well on those GUM/SPN/ROR beach markets and the bigger issue is the long haul tpac flights. GUM gets a lot of US travel also due to military/govt. The SPN and ROR flights aren't exactly cheap so they must have decent yield with the limited frequency of only a couple flights/wk.

Didn't even think about the lack of wi-fi for tpac now... As you mentioned its almost non existent on the 767s, and limited on the 777s.
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Old May 6, 2015, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Longboater
SEA-ICN/PEK/PVG are being downgauged to 767s.
Pretty sure SEA-ICN has been a 767 flight for some time, if not from day one (the inaugral was a 767 and I don't recall seeing an upgauge).
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Old May 6, 2015, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Pretty sure SEA-ICN has been a 767 flight for some time, if not from day one (the inaugral was a 767 and I don't recall seeing an upgauge).
The A332 has operated this route before
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Old May 6, 2015, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Longboater
The A332 has operated this route [SEA-ICN] before
And the A333 will operate it this summer.
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Old May 6, 2015, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by bretthexum
Saw a 747 ready to leave MSP on 4/24. It's been awhile since I've seen one there.
There apparently was a spare 747 parked at MSP the day the airport had the plumbing problem. DL moved the 747 to a gate (about G6 IIRC) and let people use its lavatories.
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Old May 6, 2015, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Pretty sure SEA-ICN has been a 767 flight for some time, if not from day one (the inaugral was a 767 and I don't recall seeing an upgauge).
When I checked in January and again last month, SEA-ICN was indeed the 767. I also noticed that connections to ICN through SEA are much cheaper than the DTW routing.
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Originally Posted by Longboater
Interesting that Delta is still keeping the 747 on HNL-KIX/NRT and taking it off of DTW-PVG. Would have figured with the downgauging of the beach markets, the 747 would have been taken off them completely.
Why? HNL-NRT was 3x daily until recently (1x747 and 2xA330 and later 1x747, 1xA330 and 1x767); it was already massively downgraded to only 2x daily now not long ago. Were DL to further cut capacity, it'd be making cuts that'll be likely hard to make up later.

HNL-KIX is seasonally 2x daily (1x747 and 1xA330) and is always full, both when 2x as well as only 1x daily. On HNL-KIX it may make sense to make it 2x daily A330 instead most othe time and 3x daily (or 1x747 and 1xA330) at pemes, true, but possibly 1x747 is cheaper to operate, only adding in second daily at times of super heavy demand (though still there is overall too little capacity on HNL-KIX vs. demand, or so I've read).
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Old May 7, 2015, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
Why? HNL-NRT was 3x daily until recently (1x747 and 2xA330 and later 1x747, 1xA330 and 1x767); it was already massively downgraded to only 2x daily now not long ago. Were DL to further cut capacity, it'd be making cuts that'll be likely hard to make up later.

HNL-KIX is seasonally 2x daily (1x747 and 1xA330) and is always full, both when 2x as well as only 1x daily. On HNL-KIX it may make sense to make it 2x daily A330 instead most othe time and 3x daily (or 1x747 and 1xA330) at pemes, true, but possibly 1x747 is cheaper to operate, only adding in second daily at times of super heavy demand (though still there is overall too little capacity on HNL-KIX vs. demand, or so I've read).
I would have figured with the continuing Yen devaluations the HNL-Japan markets would be particularly hard.
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Old May 7, 2015, 10:54 am
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Delta will be retiring another 6 744s by this winter, leaving just 7 744s in the fleet. So far, it looks like the only 744 routes left this winter will be:

DTW-NRT
DTW-ICN
HNL-NRT
HNL-KIX
NRT-MNL

As mentioned upthread, around four new 242-t A333s will be joining the fleet by the end of the year, and there are some interesting changes loaded so far for the winter schedule:

SEA-NRT: A333
ATL-FRA: A333 (764 last winter)
ATL-MUC: A333 (764 last winter)
ATL-GIG: A333 (764 last winter)
JFK-DUB: A333 (764 last winter)
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta
Delta will be retiring another 6 744s by this winter, leaving just 7 744s in the fleet. So far, it looks like the only 744 routes left this winter will be:

DTW-NRT
DTW-ICN
HNL-NRT
HNL-KIX
NRT-MNL

As mentioned upthread, around four new 242-t A333s will be joining the fleet by the end of the year, and there are some interesting changes loaded so far for the winter schedule:

SEA-NRT: A333
ATL-FRA: A333 (764 last winter)
ATL-MUC: A333 (764 last winter)
ATL-GIG: A333 (764 last winter)
JFK-DUB: A333 (764 last winter)
Looks like 2015-16 will be the last years of flying the 744 and even then by mid-late 2016 there will probably be less than 5 744s remaining in the fleet so I guess its an enjoy it while it lasts situation. But it'll be interesting to see how the A350s will compare with the 744s once they enter service in 2017 and whether or not they will have the same love from flyers.
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Old May 8, 2015, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by deltaflyer08
Looks like 2015-16 will be the last years of flying the 744 and even then by mid-late 2016 there will probably be less than 5 744s remaining in the fleet so I guess its an enjoy it while it lasts situation. But it'll be interesting to see how the A350s will compare with the 744s once they enter service in 2017 and whether or not they will have the same love from flyers.
The A350s look more like an expansion aircraft than a replacement of the 747. If Delta was doing that poorly with the 747 when the Yen crashed, I don't know why they didn't purchase 10 or so 77Ws to come in sooner than any other widebody.
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