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Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information

Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,

Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information

N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.

Fleet Notes:

Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
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Old Aug 11, 2014, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by landeej
I wonder if that's more from the dropoff of travelers going to BKK given the political situation at the moment. Last Nov/Dec BE was absolutely packed NRT-BKK-NRT, and I was lucky to get a seat upstairs.
Foreign arrivals have indeed been down around 5% or so this year, with most commentators blaming it on their political situation. My guess - and it is a guess - is that arrivals from the US would likely be down disproportionately. The Thai economy will barely grow this year as well, hampering business travel growth. The place is a mess right now, but, on the bright side, might offer some opportunity for value-hunting.
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Old Aug 11, 2014, 3:48 pm
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So with DTW NGO switching to the A330, JFK NRT to the 777, ATL NRT to the 777, DTW NRT is currently the 777, that will leave no east coast option to take the 747 any longer. The 777 is nice, but the 747 BE seat is much better with much more personel space.

I understand now why also they closed the SC in MNL, with the cancelation of NGO MNL, that leaves just one arrival and one departure daily now for DL at MNL. That is going to mean ticket prices going up and seat availability going down. Strange because both flights into and out of MNL are always full.
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Old Aug 11, 2014, 4:45 pm
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Well it looks like the NRT-LAX bird flies back to Tokyo and will probably be parked there as a spare, while the NRT-ATL bird stays in Atlanta. I don't see any domestic 747 flights to the other obvious places (DTW, JFK, MSP, LAX, etc) so that one probably sits in Atlanta as a spare...
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Old Aug 11, 2014, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by craig44485
So with DTW NGO switching to the A330, JFK NRT to the 777, ATL NRT to the 777, DTW NRT is currently the 777, that will leave no east coast option to take the 747 any longer. The 777 is nice, but the 747 BE seat is much better with much more personel space.
DTW-ICN is still a 744, and DTW-NRT will get the 744 in late October, as will DTW-PVG. NGO will get a 332, however.
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Old Aug 12, 2014, 5:21 pm
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I just checked DL schedules and from what it looks like DTW-NRT won't be switching to a 747 until 10/27 and DTW-PVG will be switching to a 747 from 10/2 onwards instead of 10/25.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Looks like the entire remaining 744 fleet will be concentrated at DTW starting in November. There's one errant segment left in the schedule, as best I can tell, which is HNL-ICN... which, if it remains, will likely be operated by aircraft rotating on/off of ICN-DTW.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 3:18 pm
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I know that every so often they use a 747 domestically, for repositioning, etc. How do you go about finding when that happens?
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by cptlflyer
Looks like the entire remaining 744 fleet will be concentrated at DTW starting in November. There's one errant segment left in the schedule, as best I can tell, which is HNL-ICN... which, if it remains, will likely be operated by aircraft rotating on/off of ICN-DTW.
HNL-ICN is KE, not DL (3x daily; 1 x 747 direct, 1 x A330 direct (KE52/53 and KE54/55) and 1 x A330 via NRT (KE1/2)).

The two DL flights out of HNL on 747s will be HNL-NRT (second one is A330; though currently both are 747 on some days) and HNL-KIX (currently A330, but getting back to 747 later this year and continuing so thereafter; it seems that DL is doing just that vs. bring it to 2x daily during peak periods as it has done in the past). Usually in the mid-late morning you will see two DL 747s at HNL; sometimes three (such as when 2 x on NRT + 1 x on KIX), and so is also continuing into 2015.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 5:39 pm
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Is Delta pushing the limits of the 767 and 330 by using the 330 on routes like DTW-NGO and the 767 SEA-Asia? Seems most airlines are using 777 on routes of similar distances.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Deadtail
Is Delta pushing the limits of the 767 and 330 by using the 330 on routes like DTW-NGO and the 767 SEA-Asia? Seems most airlines are using 777 on routes of similar distances.
to the point where they constantly divert for fuel like UA's transatlantic 757s? I don't think so. Delta seems to be smarter in the sense in that they have the right equipment with the right engines on the right routes. They are a very smart airline.

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Old Aug 15, 2014, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
HNL-ICN is KE, not DL (3x daily; 1 x 747 direct, 1 x A330 direct (KE52/53 and KE54/55) and 1 x A330 via NRT (KE1/2)).
Good call. I thought it was news that DL operated HNL-ICN, but figured I just missed that somehow when I inadvertently picked-up the DL coded KE flight in my search. My bad!

Originally Posted by RealHJ
The two DL flights out of HNL on 747s will be HNL-NRT (second one is A330; though currently both are 747 on some days) and HNL-KIX (currently A330, but getting back to 747 later this year and continuing so thereafter; it seems that DL is doing just that vs. bring it to 2x daily during peak periods as it has done in the past). Usually in the mid-late morning you will see two DL 747s at HNL; sometimes three (such as when 2 x on NRT + 1 x on KIX), and so is also continuing into 2015.
The 744 used for HNL-NRT could be rotated off of DTW-NRT, but I'm really puzzled by HNL-KIX... unless there's another schedule update to come soon. If HNL-KIX remains operated by a 744, that means DL will have to have an isolated HNL-based 744 fleet.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Deadtail
Is Delta pushing the limits of the 767 and 330 by using the 330 on routes like DTW-NGO and the 767 SEA-Asia? Seems most airlines are using 777 on routes of similar distances.
No, SEA-Asia is well-within range for a 763ER. Delta operated an A332 at the end of the short-lived DTW-HND service without issue. As you may recall, at one point US had applied to operate PHL-PEK using an A332.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by cptlflyer
Good call. I thought it was news that DL operated HNL-ICN, but figured I just missed that somehow when I inadvertently picked-up the DL coded KE flight in my search. My bad!



The 744 used for HNL-NRT could be rotated off of DTW-NRT, but I'm really puzzled by HNL-KIX... unless there's another schedule update to come soon. If HNL-KIX remains operated by a 744, that means DL will have to have an isolated HNL-based 744 fleet.
Well it's not isolated as in only one aircraft, there's 2-3 747 aircraft on HNL-Japan normally (rest are 767s and A330s).

HNL-KIX goes to 747 later this year and stays so throughout 2015 (at least, at this time). It does tend to change from A330 to 747 from time to time, and at busier times of year goes to 2x daily (usually 747 + A330 then).
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Old Aug 16, 2014, 1:25 am
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Originally Posted by Cloudship
I know that every so often they use a 747 domestically, for repositioning, etc. How do you go about finding when that happens?
In normal OPS, if a 747 reposition is required, it is usually a non-revenue ferry flight. In any case, these repositions are last minute and very hard to plan for, and really there is no way of knowing about them unless you track the 747 fleet very closely.
Around schedule changes, like this coming October which includes many changes to the 747 fleet, it may be possible to predict where DL would need to reposition 747s, but to confirm, one must wait until the schedule shows it. Look for hub-hub routes, particulary XXX-DTW, around 10/20-10/26.
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Old Aug 18, 2014, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
Well it's not isolated as in only one aircraft, there's 2-3 747 aircraft on HNL-Japan normally (rest are 767s and A330s).

HNL-KIX goes to 747 later this year and stays so throughout 2015 (at least, at this time). It does tend to change from A330 to 747 from time to time, and at busier times of year goes to 2x daily (usually 747 + A330 then).
Isolated in the sense that the routes these Asia-focused 747s fly do not connect with any routes to the mainland for rotational purposes. I gather DL still has a 747 crew base at HNL?

Historically, yes, there have always been 747s flying in the Pacific... but that was before this schedule announcement which pulls 744's off all TPAC routes not operated from HNL or DTW.
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