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Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information

Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,

Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information

N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.

Fleet Notes:

Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
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DL 747 fleet operation

Old May 16, 2013, 2:34 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
Here's one change for you. DTW to NGO will no longer be daily. Beginning October 1, it looks like DTW to NGO will be 4x weekly. Also, that means that NGO to MNL will also go down to 4x weekly.
I'm still seeing it daily on DL.com in December.
But even if you're right, this still means that from August until October, DL needs 17 birds, with only having 16.
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Old May 16, 2013, 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by misterbean
After the announcement of DTW-ICN going to 747 in August, I am wondering how DL is going to utilize their 16 747's...

Right now it's already spread pretty thin..
13 birds are required to maintain the schedule:
  • 7 birds for arrivals/departures in NRT (ATL, JFK, DTW, BKK, TPE, MNL, HNL)
  • 1 bird overnighting in ATL
  • 2 birds for JFK-TLV
  • 2 birds for DTW-NGO-MNL-NGO-DTW
  • 1 bird for HNL-KIX

DL is going to need 2 additional birds for DTW-ICN-DTW, bringing the total to 15/16.

Assuming the spare bird stays at NRT, this means any maintenance schedule must be coordinated to allow the spare bird to reposition, leaving the entire fleet without spares for IRROPS! Does anyone else think this is NUTS?

Looking at the current routes for post DTW-ICN change, all still show 747.

What do you think? Will any routes lose the 747 eventually? The obvious candidates are NRT-BKK and HNL-KIX since they are independent from other routes..

Am I missing something?
Delta needs a stronger international strategy to stay strong. With all the other carriers out there, Delta's 747-400's are amongst the least competitive today for many routes.

Delta does have a very strong market for a national domestic network especially out of JFK and LGA, but its international strategy really seems to be lackluster.
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Old May 16, 2013, 2:58 am
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I think the 747 is a beast!
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Old May 16, 2013, 7:37 am
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The big problem will be irops handling. As mentioned we're already seeing a mess due to the MX of the bird in ATL the other day and its still effecting ops today.

Sounds like the extra 747 in NRT is going to be fully utilized and there will be minimal redundancy for an MX issue.
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Old May 16, 2013, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by Dawgfan6291
and on final note i wouldn't be counting on the 747 staying on SEA-NRT for long. As soon as they get enough 333s to constantly run SEA-NRT I expect it will go back to it. SEA-TYO is already over served, Delta adding a 747 and a 767 to HND will just make capacity worse.
http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/10/d...rt-s13update3/
suggests that SEA-NRT will be seasonal and not permanent.

I don't mind if there's excess capacity in the market between these city pairs....means more opportunity for some reasonably---or cheap priced flights.

ANA returns on 01 June, but with 777 instead of 787. Would love to see Untied exit the market and turn it over to ANA.
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Old May 16, 2013, 8:17 am
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i mean, DL favors picking up used aircraft over new. Whats to keep them from picking up a used 747 or two? I'm sure there has to be plenty of used stock at very good prices.
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Old May 16, 2013, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I think the CX non stops between JFK and HKG are or were 747s, but there might be an extended range version which is different from what DL has.
if, lets say, DL were to start JFK to HKG, then it would probably have to be flown with a T7 I guess.
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Old May 16, 2013, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by davetravels
Just a teeny, tiny tidbit . . .

So, I guess the B747 has 2 pet names - maybe more! I guess "Whale" is an industry insider nickname.
MrWeezer calls it a whale too. My only trip on a 747 was in 1998 on SQ, and in the last row of coach...so I guess I flew in the tail of the whale.
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Old May 16, 2013, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
i mean, DL favors picking up used aircraft over new. Whats to keep them from picking up a used 747 or two? I'm sure there has to be plenty of used stock at very good prices.
Yeah, but they need to modify it to their config, change livery, etc. That'll take some time, and we probably would have heard about it by now if they were planning on doing so, as the changes are happening in the next several months.
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Old May 16, 2013, 8:29 am
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HNL-KIX-HNL is showing A333 starting October 26th. So there's one down.
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Old May 16, 2013, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by 98103
http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/10/d...rt-s13update3/
suggests that SEA-NRT will be seasonal and not permanent.

I don't mind if there's excess capacity in the market between these city pairs....means more opportunity for some reasonably---or cheap priced flights.

ANA returns on 01 June, but with 777 instead of 787. Would love to see Untied exit the market and turn it over to ANA.
That's too bad. Now I'll have to watch that itinerary and try to switch or at least grab a decent seat on the new aircraft. Does anyone know whether DL will switch the 747 to a 777 or will it be something like a 767-400 or even A330?
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Old May 16, 2013, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
That's too bad. Now I'll have to watch that itinerary and try to switch or at least grab a decent seat on the new aircraft. Does anyone know whether DL will switch the 747 to a 777 or will it be something like a 767-400 or even A330?
I'll be checking my seats every day too. Of course given DL IT, I already do that.
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Old May 16, 2013, 2:21 pm
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Delta's strategy on used 717 and MD90 doesn't mean they favor used planes. It means they favor used MD based airplanes. They have a lot in the existing fleet and these planes fit their needs and have lower overhead costs for them. All Delta did was add newer MD's in place to phase out the older ones gradually.

I doubt Delta will pick up any used 747-400's and I do believe Delta will need a stronger fleet replacement strategy on these.

These are the most expensive jets of the lot and so the money spent on replacements does not go as far. You can get 100 737-900ERs for a good price brand new which won't eat away profits so much and a faster payback time and return on investment.

However with the 747-400 fleet, my guess is they are actively searching for the right replacements and obviously have a capital expenditure budget in mind. They did just redo the interiors and modify them but I would guess this will be the last modification on these birds. But they will IMHO have to place orders for something in the future.

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Old May 16, 2013, 2:42 pm
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It'll be years out, but hoping they decide on the 748 as the eventual replacement when the 747-400s hit end of service.
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It'll be years out, but hoping they decide on the 748 as the eventual replacement when the 747-400s hit end of service.
prob not. 2 engines do a better job then 4. Unless they need the capacity, they'll go with a 777 order. Or, maybe used 777's? DL does have a love affair with used birds.
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