Jul 14, 2013, 4:18 am
Last edit by: Zorak
Last updated: 03/7/2018
Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information
Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,
Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information
N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
Fleet Notes:
Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information
Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,
Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information
N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
Fleet Notes:
Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
DL 747 fleet operation
Sep 12, 2017, 11:50 pm
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If I had known about a half hour in advance, I would have been able to watch it too.
OTOH, I did manage to drive past the BA 747 that was parked at MSP for several days last summer after a MX diversion.
OTOH, I did manage to drive past the BA 747 that was parked at MSP for several days last summer after a MX diversion.
Sep 13, 2017, 3:59 am
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She made a fuel stop westbound, from DTW to PVG? Are you sure it wasn't a medical diversion or minor maintenance issue? Flight status on delta.dumb shows a flight time of 14 hours and 22 minutes for DL583, arriving into PVG four hours and three minutes late. Since MSP is almost right on the route, that seems like a very long fuel stop. CORRECTED: They were on the ground here from 5:22 pm to 6:45 pm (originally planned as 6:15 pm), which wasn't so long. Then they took a very northern route, apparently not overflying any part of Alaska, which seems unusual to me.
I'm sorry I missed seeing it here. That would have been special.
I wonder whether anyone from FT was on board.
ADDED: According to flightstats.com, this flight took an aircraft and gate change early this morning, around 6 am DTW time. The same thing happened yesterday around 10 am. My reading of the event timeline also says that the decision to divert to MSP today was made long before boarding began, at 8:56 am, so the cause couldn't have been medical, but it might have been some maintenance issue, perhaps with a required part at MSP. At MSP, they apparently parked at F12, but given the planned length of the stop here and the fact that it was an international flight, I'm pretty sure that no one would have been allowed to deplane.
I'm sorry I missed seeing it here. That would have been special.
I wonder whether anyone from FT was on board.
ADDED: According to flightstats.com, this flight took an aircraft and gate change early this morning, around 6 am DTW time. The same thing happened yesterday around 10 am. My reading of the event timeline also says that the decision to divert to MSP today was made long before boarding began, at 8:56 am, so the cause couldn't have been medical, but it might have been some maintenance issue, perhaps with a required part at MSP. At MSP, they apparently parked at F12, but given the planned length of the stop here and the fact that it was an international flight, I'm pretty sure that no one would have been allowed to deplane.
Sep 13, 2017, 7:01 am
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The issue wasn't the routing, it is that RWY 04R in DTW (the longest runway, 12,000 feet) is closed until September 19th for maintenance work. The next longest departure runway would have necessitated getting about 70 volunteers.
Hence the "planned" MSP stop in advance to carry everything. At that takeoff weight & stage length, 2000 extra feet of runway makes a huge difference.
Potential for this scenario again this week, depending on the loads / takeoff weight of course.
Hence the "planned" MSP stop in advance to carry everything. At that takeoff weight & stage length, 2000 extra feet of runway makes a huge difference.
Potential for this scenario again this week, depending on the loads / takeoff weight of course.
Sep 13, 2017, 7:36 am
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Thanks for the explanation.
However, yesterday's DTW-ICN 747 doesn't appear to have been affected, nor anything yesterday. Are TPAC loads that low in mid September?
However, yesterday's DTW-ICN 747 doesn't appear to have been affected, nor anything yesterday. Are TPAC loads that low in mid September?
Sep 13, 2017, 7:58 am
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Sep 13, 2017, 8:32 am
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I stopped out right after work to watch it land and take off. Lots of people out to see it--nice weather and I was glad to be able to see it! Not sure if I'll have time to fly on it before December.
Sep 13, 2017, 8:35 am
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The issue wasn't the routing, it is that RWY 04R in DTW (the longest runway, 12,000 feet) is closed until September 19th for maintenance work. The next longest departure runway would have necessitated getting about 70 volunteers.
Hence the "planned" MSP stop in advance to carry everything. At that takeoff weight & stage length, 2000 extra feet of runway makes a huge difference.
Potential for this scenario again this week, depending on the loads / takeoff weight of course.
Hence the "planned" MSP stop in advance to carry everything. At that takeoff weight & stage length, 2000 extra feet of runway makes a huge difference.
Potential for this scenario again this week, depending on the loads / takeoff weight of course.
Sep 13, 2017, 8:35 am
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How did you find out about the diversion early enough to see the plane land? I would have watched--and could have done so--if I had known.
Sep 13, 2017, 8:37 am
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My PVG/DTW on 12th had maybe 12 passengers in D1. Even crew can't remember flights this empty. Was same when i flew DTW/PVG.
Sep 13, 2017, 8:40 am
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Can someone check loads (beyond what I can see on EF or from seat maps) and indicate whether we should look for the PVG flight at MSP on certain upcoming days, including today?
Sep 13, 2017, 8:42 am
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Sep 13, 2017, 8:45 am
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Interesting. There's someone from FT flying the DTW-PVG flight today. I wonder whether that one will do the MSP diversion. (Personally I'd love to see it, but of course it causes a very late arrival.)
Can someone check loads (beyond what I can see on EF or from seat maps) and indicate whether we should look for the PVG flight at MSP on certain upcoming days, including today?
Can someone check loads (beyond what I can see on EF or from seat maps) and indicate whether we should look for the PVG flight at MSP on certain upcoming days, including today?
Sep 13, 2017, 8:50 am
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So today is a good day to look for the 747 to PVG at MSP, but I don't yet see anything on flightstats.com in the event listing.
I wonder how early yesterday's (planned) diversion was announced to passengers.
I wonder how early yesterday's (planned) diversion was announced to passengers.
Sep 13, 2017, 10:04 am
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If you go into the flydelta app, and go to "flight status" and input flight 583, on the next screen there is a button that says " + watch flight." Click it, and it will ask you to select which leg you want to watch (in this case, you can choose between flight 583 LGA-DTW or flight 583 DTW-PVG, since its a thru-flight).
I assume once they build the "divert" city you'll get a notice. I'm testing this theory now. lol. but the Y class seat map looks wide open today so I bet it won't stop...
Last edited by PurdueFlyer; Sep 13, 2017 at 10:04 am Reason: clarified "fly delta" app
Sep 13, 2017, 10:45 am
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The seat map might look open, but EF is showing all zeroes in coach and C+ fare class availability with two D1 seats still being offered. Maybe DL zeroed it out to avoid a diversion to MSP today?
I guess my question was really how one could have learned in advance about yesterday's diversion since I didn't have a clue that I should have looked for it. Apparently a lot of folks here knew in time to see the 747. I know how to watch flights using flight status on the DL app or on delta.dumb, but you cannot watch every flight every day---or at least, I wouldn't want to do this.
I guess my question was really how one could have learned in advance about yesterday's diversion since I didn't have a clue that I should have looked for it. Apparently a lot of folks here knew in time to see the 747. I know how to watch flights using flight status on the DL app or on delta.dumb, but you cannot watch every flight every day---or at least, I wouldn't want to do this.