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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Jun 7, 2017, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by C W
I want to SDC or SDS on the inbound domestic segment of an international round trip (originating in Germany). All the international flight segments will be completed for the inbound, but naturally not for the return. Is this allowed? Thanks!
Hi CW, what you can do is ask them to SDC/SDS you after your international flight lands in the USA. This is the one silver lining of USA baggage re-check policies in that you can do this with checked baggage because it's in your hands and they can re-tag it.

Certainly inventory will have changed by then, so your options may be more limited, but that way you can (hopefully) catch an earlier flight from the gateway.
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 6:14 pm
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I just had a GA at LAX tell me that I cannot fly standby on an earlier flight without paying a fee. I told the GA I'm Platinum Medallion and she sent me to the Service Desk. I asked to fly standby for an earlier flight and they asked me if I was a Medallion member. As soon as I said yes and they confirmed it they issued the standby ticket.

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Old Jun 7, 2017, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by C W
This language is in the fare rules to protect the special JFK/LAX/SFO flights at the point of sale. The fare rules don't apply to SDC.
Tge fare rules do indeed apply. However, most agents will ignore them if you offer a semi reasonable routing.
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Old Jun 12, 2017, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MonAmQB
I have a HND trip in business class coming up with the return itinerary being HND-LAX-SLC-RDU, all on a single ticket. HND-SLC is technically a "direct flight", with a stop in LAX. I will land at LAX at 9:09am. Can I standby or confirm on the 10:35am nonstop LAX-RDU instead of having to go through LAX-SLC-RDU?

Called DM line to inquire and was told that it would not be possible, as the HND-SLC "direct flight" cannot be broken. But I want to hear from the experts on this forum.

Will another DM line agent or the LAX-RDU flight gate agent be able to do it for me? I can give up my first class seat for an economy class seat in order to get on the LAX-RDU nonstop.

I have global entry and no check in luggage, so the layover in LAX should be enough time for me to make the LAX-RDU nonstop.
Just got back from the trip. Within 24 hrs of the HND-LAX flight, I called DM line. The agent said it was against the rule, which I disputed (double connection to single connection, so no rule violation), but then he said he would see what he could do. A few minutes later, I was confirmed on the LAX-RDU nonstop, albeit in Comfort+. So it all worked out nicely for me.
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 5:51 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak
Cleared RU upgrades do not get the SDC privileges of paid F, so it would be surprising if WU/SU could be SDCed like paid W.
I think the previous poster got lucky. Premium cabin SDC rules most certain do NOT apply to medallion upgraded tickets. I know from many experiences.

Originally Posted by flyerCO
Tge fare rules do indeed apply. However, most agents will ignore them if you offer a semi reasonable routing.
This. Fare rules are supposed to apply, but many agents simply ignore them if your ask makes sense and there's space available.
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by MonAmQB
Just got back from the trip. Within 24 hrs of the HND-LAX flight, I called DM line. The agent said it was against the rule, which I disputed (double connection to single connection, so no rule violation), but then he said he would see what he could do. A few minutes later, I was confirmed on the LAX-RDU nonstop, albeit in Comfort+. So it all worked out nicely for me.
Nice. Why did you accept a C+ seat when you were in paid J (for LAX/RDU)? Were there no seata available? If so hopefully they coded you so you're at the top of the upgrade list.

Originally Posted by McMichaelNY
I just had a GA at LAX tell me that I cannot fly standby on an earlier flight without paying a fee. I told the GA I'm Platinum Medallion and she sent me to the Service Desk. I asked to fly standby for an earlier flight and they asked me if I was a Medallion member. As soon as I said yes and they confirmed it they issued the standby ticket.
I would have called the PM Desk right there on my phone. They can list standbys but it may take the GA to activate you. I'm tired of employees not knowing their basic job responsibilities (charging PM for an EARLY SDS? Psshh)

Then I would have gone back to the exact same GA to activate me. I assume this is the gate that you wanted to take the earlier flight from. The GA should have handled your request originally, and if they know that little about their job, I would have asked for a Red Coat.
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by btonkid12345
Nice. Why did you accept a C+ seat when you were in paid J (for LAX/RDU)? Were there no seata available? If so hopefully they coded you so you're at the top of the upgrade list.
According to the agent, First Class was sold out.
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 10:48 am
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Was able to confirm from FLL-CVG-LAX to FLL-JFK-LAX today. First call, easy peasy.

The odd thing was that there were F/J seats on FLL-JFK (x1) and JFK-LAX (x3) flights, but for whatever reason when booked together the FLL-JFK availability vanished when married with my JFK flight. A manual intervention fixed it quickly. Making it more odd, I COULD confirm in the same FLL-JFK when matched with a later JFK-LAX flight. Oh, well... oddity but ultimately worked out.
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by McFlyPHL
Was able to confirm from FLL-CVG-LAX to FLL-JFK-LAX today. First call, easy peasy.

The odd thing was that there were F/J seats on FLL-JFK (x1) and JFK-LAX (x3) flights, but for whatever reason when booked together the FLL-JFK availability vanished when married with my JFK flight. A manual intervention fixed it quickly. Making it more odd, I COULD confirm in the same FLL-JFK when matched with a later JFK-LAX flight. Oh, well... oddity but ultimately worked out.
yeah, that's occasionally an artifact of married segment availability on the particular flight ... what I think happened is the agent first SDCd your entire trip, and then SDCd the JFK-LAX segment separately
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 3:20 pm
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I would like to change a nonstop 9am flight to a nonstop 1pm flight, booked in A (discounted first).

Would I be able to call in at 9am the day prior to the flight and switch to the 1pm flight (assuming there are still seats in first class)? Or do I have to wait until it is 24 hrs before the flight I'd like to switch to (eg 1pm)?

Also, I have a special meal requested for the flight. If I'm only able to switch to the later flight 24 hrs in advance, would I still be able to request a special meal for that flight? If I can change to the later flight >24 hrs in advance, it sounds as though the special meal request will go through okay.

Thanks!
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 4:36 pm
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It is 24 hours prior to your ticketed flight, not the one you want to switch to. You can do the SDCs via twitter to @Delta or call in, whichever is easier for you. I normally send a twitter to Delta.

Don't know about the special meals, sorry.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 4:55 pm
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Great, thanks for the info!

Since I will be requesting a special meal on the new flight >24 hrs prior to departure, the request should go through okay.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
yeah, that's occasionally an artifact of married segment availability on the particular flight ... what I think happened is the agent first SDCd your entire trip, and then SDCd the JFK-LAX segment separately
Whatever they did, it wound up resulting in 100% MQM bonus vs. 50%. That'll put me over DM a good bit before I'd planned so can't complain.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 4:24 pm
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I haven't done same-day changes before so asking:

I am Delta Gold, my SO is Delta no-status.

We are both on the same reservation 5pm Seattle-SFO direct on delta metal delta award ticket (bought using my miles).

Is it possible to same-day-change to the immediately earlier Seattle-SFO 3pm delta metal flight for free? Would the fee be waived for both of us since I am gold and I made the reservation under same record locator?

I think officially it might not be allowed to get my partner for free change also, but given a short Seattle to SFO flight with a very simple change to immidiately preceding flight, using the gold delta line would I have success in practice?
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by nomii
I think officially it might not be allowed to get my partner for free change also, but given a short Seattle to SFO flight with a very simple change to immidiately preceding flight, using the gold delta line would I have success in practice?
Officially, your companion has to pay the SDC fee, but note the wiki at the top of the thread: "This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived."

I don't have direct experience with companion SDCs myself, but IIRC there have been a number of reports of waivers and maybe "sometimes" should be upgraded to "frequently".
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