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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Aug 8, 2022, 8:06 am
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Confirmed RUC, was just able to do a same-day flight change at check-in opening--didn't have to wait until same calendar day.
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Originally Posted by OssianBlue
Confirmed RUC, was just able to do a same-day flight change at check-in opening--didn't have to wait until same calendar day.
Never have had to wait for same day, just checkin window (24hr).
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 8:51 am
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Fare Rules Routing Question and SDC??

I am on a First Class Award Ticket (OZ) on Wednesday from BHM-PIT with a current connection through LGA. Because of a change in plans I need to swap to a later flight. Will Delta allow me to SDC to a BHM-ATL-LGA-PIT? Originally was going to swap BHM-ATL-PIT however alot of those legs are sold out in F. Yes its a longer flight but I have the time and won't pass up the extra MQM's.

2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING -
2 ONLINE ON DL.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Would appreciate thoughts if anyone has any.
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 8:54 am
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The routing rules for discount revenue fares require BHM-ATL/DTT/NYC-PIT, so I doubt this would be permitted, but SDC with an agent is always a YMMV experience. Awards could be more flexible.
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Originally Posted by CVFDCHIEF180
I am on a First Class Award Ticket (OZ) on Wednesday from BHM-PIT with a current connection through LGA. Because of a change in plans I need to swap to a later flight. Will Delta allow me to SDC to a BHM-ATL-LGA-PIT? Originally was going to swap BHM-ATL-PIT however alot of those legs are sold out in F. Yes its a longer flight but I have the time and won't pass up the extra MQM's.

2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING -
2 ONLINE ON DL.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Would appreciate thoughts if anyone has any.
No issue. However may need to call, app/website don't always display options involving different number of segments.

You can downgrade to W/Y on a segment if wish as part of F SDC policy.
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 8:55 am
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That's not the routing rules (it's generic boilerplate found in fare rules). You need an EF account to find actual routing rules for a fare (they are not available on DL website). Routing rules allow a single connection in DTW, ATL, or LGA.

PUBLISHED RTG BHM-PIT/DL1119/TAR-DRG1 EF-28JUL22 DIS-INDEF

MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. BHM-ATL/DTT/NYC-PIT
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper
That's not the routing rules (it's generic boilerplate found in fare rules). You need an EF account to find actual routing rules for a fare (they are not available on DL website). Routing rules allow a single connection in DTW, ATL, or LGA.

PUBLISHED RTG BHM-PIT/DL1119/TAR-DRG1 EF-28JUL22 DIS-INDEF

MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. BHM-ATL/DTT/NYC-PIT
Those actually came straight off of the EF site.
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Originally Posted by xliioper
That's not the routing rules (it's generic boilerplate found in fare rules). You need an EF account to find actual routing rules for a fare (they are not available on DL website). Routing rules allow a single connection in DTW, ATL, or LGA.

PUBLISHED RTG BHM-PIT/DL1119/TAR-DRG1 EF-28JUL22 DIS-INDEF

MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. BHM-ATL/DTT/NYC-PIT
I've found for rewards, it more matter that DL returns a result during search, even if its a broken fare reward, for SDC to happen. Unlike cash where it sticks to the fare routing. At least IME, YMMV.
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Originally Posted by CVFDCHIEF180
Those actually came straight off of the EF site.
Yes, because they have the published routing rules for fares available. Not sure what your point is.
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper
Yes, because they have the published routing rules for fares available. Not sure what your point is.
I was saying if you search for that exact fare on EF that is what is listed on the routing on that particular fare, as well as the option for 2 transfers
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 10:12 am
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Yes, the routing rules are the same for all fares on this route. Sometimes, higher class fares have more liberal routing rules, but in this case (like many) all fares have same routing rules that allow a single connect via ATL, DTW, or LGA. The "two transfers" boilerplate does not mean that double-connects are valid for these fares (you will not be able to price any double-connect options via delta.com, ITA, etc. on a single fare component). You'll find the same boilerplate on all fares (including ones where routing rules require non-stop routing).

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Old Aug 8, 2022, 11:16 am
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You'll only be able to sds/sdc to earlier flights. The later ones, you'll have to wait until they are within the 24 hour window.
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by CVFDCHIEF180
I was saying if you search for that exact fare on EF that is what is listed on the routing on that particular fare, as well as the option for 2 transfers
The number of permitted transfers is only one aspect of the fare rules; the routing table is another. You have to satisfy both criteria.

That being said, agents often ignore the routing rules when processing a SDC, so that's unlikely to be a major stumbling block; more likely is that some agents have the idea that you can't change the number of connections when doing an SDC. You _are_ permitted to _add_ connections, but you may have to push on that or HUCA.
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by golfr
You'll only be able to sds/sdc to earlier flights. The later ones, you'll have to wait until they are within the 24 hour window.
this is only on the app and only because the app has a bug.
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68
this is only on the app and only because the app has a bug.
interesting. I'll def check out the website next time.
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