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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Mar 11, 2021, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Good grief. Called to SDC on outright paid F ticket. First short segment had no F. No worries I'm happy with W as it's short. Agent refuses. Supervisor refuses. "You can only SDC to a F cabin."

Wording is on delta.com but they "know" they're right.
Well if you could talk them into it, would that now allow you to submit your downgraded boarding pass for both a difference in fare as well as a $200 gift for the problem?

I'm sure that after the fact with a little work Delta could figure out they owe you nothing, but why would they want the work with no other catch phrases like interruption etc.
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Originally Posted by Lomapaseo
Well if you could talk them into it, would that now allow you to submit your downgraded boarding pass for both a difference in fare as well as a $200 gift for the problem?

I'm sure that after the fact with a little work Delta could figure out they owe you nothing, but why would they want the work with no other catch phrases like interruption etc.
I called CS. (Technically reservations I guess) Agent put me through to a supervisor who was appalled a supervisor would lack knowledge on this. (It was a 1st time for me on this made up rule) Offered a travel voucher for trouble.
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Old Mar 13, 2021, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by NYC2SGN
Has anyone been able to get the SDC fee waived when there are two other (non-status) passengers on the PNR?
I've tried this a few times with Mrs Lee (non-status) on my PNR, both while I was a PM and later DM. Almost always have had to pay the fee and I get the sense that it's pretty hard-coded into the DL systems. But, if there's even the smallest hint of IRROPS, agents seem happy/enthusiastic to find a way to waive it. I think most are okay waiving it but just need to be able to use an appropriate code or something in the notes.

Originally Posted by Lomapaseo
Well if you could talk them into it, would that now allow you to submit your downgraded boarding pass for both a difference in fare as well as a $200 gift for the problem?

I'm sure that after the fact with a little work Delta could figure out they owe you nothing, but why would they want the work with no other catch phrases like interruption etc.
I'm pretty sure the initial agent just needs to make a note that the pax has voluntarily requested/accepted the downgrade for SDC purposes. I have done this countless times and aside from tan occasional HUCA have never had issues doing so.

Only difference for me is I'm usually on nonstop flights, so OP may have been facing a little bit more complication with doing one leg in W and the other in F. Still no excuse for the agent not processing the SDC as allowed.
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Originally Posted by gooselee
I've tried this a few times with Mrs Lee (non-status) on my PNR, both while I was a PM and later DM. Almost always have had to pay the fee and I get the sense that it's pretty hard-coded into the DL systems. But, if there's even the smallest hint of IRROPS, agents seem happy/enthusiastic to find a way to waive it. I think most are okay waiving it but just need to be able to use an appropriate code or something in the notes.
I have tried many time and I’ve never gotten an agent to waive a SDC fee when traveling with a non-status companion. Wish they would as UA has it written in their policy to give free SDC to companions traveling with a Gold elite or higher. Both UA and AA started allowing free SDCs for non elites this pas year when they eliminated change fees (UA is SDS only) so DL is the only major airline left to not give some sort of free SDC to non-elites.
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Originally Posted by NYC2SGN
Has anyone been able to get the SDC fee waived when there are two other (non-status) passengers on the PNR?
I've only had to SDC with a non-status companion once, when I was GM in late 2019. I asked (via chat) if they could waive the fee, and the agent obliged. Seems to be a rare occurrence though, and I wouldn't expect it, especially with multiple companions.
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Can You SDC on a Companion Ticket

2 FC seats on a domestic flight, one paid and the other using the Delta Reserve companion certificate. Original flights is a 0600 departure on Wednesday upcoming. I am a DM. Can I request a SDC to another set of flights that are available in FC even though using a companion certificate?
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
2 FC seats on a domestic flight, one paid and the other using the Delta Reserve companion certificate. Original flights is a 0600 departure on Wednesday upcoming. I am a DM. Can I request a SDC to another set of flights that are available in FC even though using a companion certificate?
Seems so, or at least you could in 2018: Same Day Confirmed and Delta Amex Companion Ticket

I forget if this has changed with COVID but a $75 fee may apply if your companion is not Gold or higher (agents may sometimes waive it on a companion itinerary but at least pre-COVID this was out of policy and a favor)
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Old Apr 6, 2021, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
2 FC seats on a domestic flight, one paid and the other using the Delta Reserve companion certificate. Original flights is a 0600 departure on Wednesday upcoming. I am a DM. Can I request a SDC to another set of flights that are available in FC even though using a companion certificate?
Yes as long as two seats are available on the new flight. You can't split flights.
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The SDC T&C say "changes are limited to flights departing on the same day of ticketed departure", and in practice on a couple of occasions when I have had travel AAA-BBB-CCC where AAA-BBB is the first flight of the day and tried to SDC to the AAA-BBB redeye departing the night before, it was denied by a phone agent (though I know some people have had success with this).

But earlier today I checked SDC options for a flight departing tomorrow (via "Change Flight" during the check-in flow) and the website proactively offered me a red-eye flight leaving tonight. I didn't want it, but interesting to see.
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Originally Posted by Zorak
The SDC T&C say "changes are limited to flights departing on the same day of ticketed departure", and in practice on a couple of occasions when I have had travel AAA-BBB-CCC where AAA-BBB is the first flight of the day and tried to SDC to the AAA-BBB redeye departing the night before, it was denied by a phone agent (though I know some people have had success with this).

But earlier today I checked SDC options for a flight departing tomorrow (via "Change Flight" during the check-in flow) and the website proactively offered me a red-eye flight leaving tonight. I didn't want it, but interesting to see.
Website has better here IMO for awhile. It strictly went by day of departure of 1st flight.
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I hope this works. I have every reason to believe it will.

I want to return on a red-eye. When I booked, the cheapest fare was about $250, the red-eye returns started around $800. So I booked the cheapest (leaves early morning, which I can't) and used a RUC to upgrade. Based on previous experience, I can SDC to any flight leaving that same day, and there's no problem changing a non-stop to a one-stop. (I know the other way is no longer allowed.)

Is that still likely to be the case? (SDC from F allows any flight in F, no fare basis availability required. And if necessary I'll take a voluntary downgrade so there's essentially no chance I can't get one of the multiple red-eye connections.)
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Originally Posted by sethb
I hope this works. I have every reason to believe it will.

I want to return on a red-eye. When I booked, the cheapest fare was about $250, the red-eye returns started around $800. So I booked the cheapest (leaves early morning, which I can't) and used a RUC to upgrade. Based on previous experience, I can SDC to any flight leaving that same day, and there's no problem changing a non-stop to a one-stop. (I know the other way is no longer allowed.)

Is that still likely to be the case? (SDC from F allows any flight in F, no fare basis availability required. And if necessary I'll take a voluntary downgrade so there's essentially no chance I can't get one of the multiple red-eye connections.)
All is allowed. However you may run into agents that don't know policy. I've actually had less issue with "you need to clear again" and more with "you can't downgrade" when no F seat available.
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Is married segment logic needed to SDC? I was considering doing a SDC today on a paid FC ticket (so fare class availability doesn't matter) from a nonstop to connecting flights (allowed). The two flights I wanted had a nice normal connecting time, certainly legal with no serious risk of missing the connection, but not excessively long so that a stopover could have been an issue). Each of the flights had lots of FC seats for sale, but there didn't seem to be a FC seat offered for sale with the first flight connecting to the second one. This was a legal and very obvious routing for my fare; in fact, the flight path almost took me over the connecting airport I had wanted. DL was willing to sell the connecting flights (in FC) a couple days earlier with no signs of it being a broken connection, although I didn't try a dummy booking to inspect fare codes.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Is married segment logic needed to SDC? I was considering doing a SDC today on a paid FC ticket (so fare class availability doesn't matter) from a nonstop to connecting flights (allowed). The two flights I wanted had a nice normal connecting time, certainly legal with no serious risk of missing the connection, but not excessively long so that a stopover could have been an issue). Each of the flights had lots of FC seats for sale, but there didn't seem to be a FC seat offered for sale with the first flight connecting to the second one. This was a legal and very obvious routing for my fare; in fact, the flight path almost took me over the connecting airport I had wanted. DL was willing to sell the connecting flights (in FC) a couple days earlier with no signs of it being a broken connection, although I didn't try a dummy booking to inspect fare codes.
IME no. However the flights may not show as an option when agent searches. They then have to put each in individually.
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Any recent experiences with SDC on an award ticket that's been upgraded using a RUC? (a relatively new possibility)

Will SDC just require any F seat to be available (as a revenue ticket upgraded with an instrument would) - or does some form of award inventory also need to be available?

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