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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to a later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares
 
 0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169
 
 501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199
 
 1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259
 
 1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319
 
 2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359
 
 3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares
 
 2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359
 
 3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares
 
 0 to 500 miles $50
 
 501 to 1,000 miles $75
 
 1,001 to 1,500 miles $100
 
 1,501 to 2,000 miles $150
 
 2,001 to 3,000 miles $225
 
 3,001 miles and up $350


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Old Mar 5, 21, 9:56 am
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The xATL would have to be the first flight out or the fare rule be one of those odd domestic connections which is at >4 hours.

This is why the full routing matters.
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No for what OP wants. As others have noted this would change from connection to a stopover.
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Old Mar 5, 21, 10:43 am
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DL domestic fares still permit layovers of up to 6 hours (post Covid change) before a stopover occurs. But this would obviously be well beyond 6 hours.

NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN 6 HOURS.
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Old Mar 5, 21, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper View Post
DL domestic fares still permit layovers of up to 6 hours (post Covid change) before a stopover occurs. But this would obviously be well beyond 6 hours.
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN 6 HOURS.
The OP didn't say where XXX was but if the destination was international, doesn't the connection have to exceed 24 hours before it's considered a stopover? (I know for Europe, not sure about Caribbean.)
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Old Mar 5, 21, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by SUPERTRAVEL View Post
The OP didn't say where XXX was but if the destination was international, doesn't the connection have to exceed 24 hours before it's considered a stopover? (I know for Europe, not sure about Caribbean.)
If OP's destination is international, this thread is moot because DL doesn't allow SDC on an international itinerary until all international segments have been flown, but yes, overnight "layovers" are possible on flights to the Caribbean. Before it was canceled due to COVID, I had a trip to SXM booked that was SAT-ATL-SXM with an overnight layover in ATL because no flight from SAT arrived early enough in ATL to make the connection to SXM in the same day.
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Old Mar 5, 21, 1:59 pm
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You can SDC to/from Canada, but Canada fares have same 6-hour layover limit as domestic US flights.
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Thanks. In my case this is a domestic destination SEA-ATL-CRW (charleston west virginia), and my ideal would be Seattle to Atlanta leave in the afternoon, sleep in atlanta, take next morning first flight to Charleston, but of course doing multicity like this jacks up the price several hundred dollars as opposed to the minimum-possible-connection of redeye
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Old Mar 5, 21, 11:27 pm
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Note that ATL-CRW has both one-way and roundtrip fares. Are you flying roundtrip and is your multi-city search SEA-ATL-CRW-SEA? This can qualify for a cheaper roundtrip fare on the ATL-CRW segment than if you book SEA-ATL-CRW and CRW-SEA separately as that will give you a one-way fare on the ATL-CRW segment. If you are not actually flying roundtip, than this is moot.

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Old Mar 6, 21, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper View Post
You can SDC to/from Canada, but Canada fares have same 6-hour layover limit as domestic US flights.
There once was a rule that you could SDC to Canada but not from Canada. Same with SDS. Not sure if this has changed.
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Old Mar 6, 21, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle View Post
There once was a rule that you could SDC to Canada but not from Canada. Same with SDS. Not sure if this has changed.
You can SDC, but not SDS to/from Canada. I believe issue is bags. Domestically there's passenger matching, international there is.
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I used to be able to do something like the OP wants to do traveling between DCA and LGW/LHR. I would buy the cheapest ticket I could get (there were four or five flights DCA-JFK), and then try to get on a departure in the 9 am hour which would get me to JFK around 11 am, and then I would use the 8 hour or so layover to attend the races at Aqueduct, which is quite close to JFK.

I'm not sure this is germane to what the OP wants to do, but a couple of years ago I was trying to get home from STL on the last departure of the evening, Unfortunately, thunderstorms were approaching STL, and the inbound flight which was to make up the flight to DTW was delayed and a certain misconnect was the result, and I couldn't get home until 4 pm the next day. It turned out that the SLC-STL-SLC turnaround was on the ground at STL and had not started boarding yet. I quickly called the PM line and got on that flight, which was the first leg of an STL-SLC-JFK-DCA trip that arrived at DCA by 9 am. I even got the last F seat on the STL-SLC (although I missed out on UGs on the other two legs).
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Old Mar 6, 21, 11:08 am
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I used to be able to do something like the OP wants to do traveling between DCA and LGW/LHR. I would buy the cheapest ticket I could get (there were four or five flights DCA-JFK), and then try to get on a departure in the 9 am hour which would get me to JFK around 11 am, and then I would use the 8 hour or so layover to attend the races at Aqueduct, which is quite close to JFK.

I'm not sure this is germane to what the OP wants to do, but a couple of years ago I was trying to get home from STL on the last departure of the evening, Unfortunately, thunderstorms were approaching STL, and the inbound flight which was to make up the flight to DTW was delayed and a certain misconnect was the result, and I couldn't get home until 4 pm the next day. It turned out that the SLC-STL-SLC turnaround was on the ground at STL and had not started boarding yet. I quickly called the PM line and got on that flight, which was the first leg of an STL-SLC-JFK-DCA trip that arrived at DCA by 9 am. I even got the last F seat on the STL-SLC (although I missed out on UGs on the other two legs).
Yes, sometimes agent will bend rules and allow SDC when the rules don't allow it (as this is international) -- and LGW flights is digging pretty far back in history (when agents had more flexibility and rules were different). And then there is the fact that LGW/LHR are international which allow for layovers of up to 24 hours before it becomes a stopover. And when IRROPs are involved, obviously agents have a lot more flexibility.

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Agree that you don't want a ticket change, but can you turn up for the earlier flight out of Sea and stby, thus keeping the next morning flight as is ?
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Has anyone been able to get the SDC fee waived when there are two other (non-status) passengers on the PNR?
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Good grief. Called to SDC on outright paid F ticket. First short segment had no F. No worries I'm happy with W as it's short. Agent refuses. Supervisor refuses. "You can only SDC to a F cabin."

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