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js80 Apr 17, 2014 3:45 pm

Anyone know if a same day change can be done to a flight operated by a SkyTeam Alliance partner if Delta has a codeshare?

Specifically, I'm wondering if I'll be able to change from my Delta flight to a later flight operated by Air France. The rules say "on Delta and Delta Connection® flights," so I'm guessing the answer is no, but wanted to know if anyone has any real world experience.

I searched this thread, but didn't find any answers.

suvayanr Apr 17, 2014 4:09 pm

New same-day confirmed and same-day standby options
 
International flights are not eligible for SDC

js80 Apr 18, 2014 7:21 am


Originally Posted by suvayanr (Post 22721470)
International flights are not eligible for SDC

Ah, thanks. I missed that.

davetravels Apr 18, 2014 10:36 am


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22721363)
Specifically, I'm wondering if I'll be able to change from my Delta flight to a later flight operated by Air France.

As mentioned above, int'l is simply not possible, but, I'd be curious to know your thoughts (js80's), on a couple of thingz . . . .

Are you flying Y or J?

1) If you're in J on a DL op'd flight now, you're likely on a plane with a lie-flat bed/seat, and, I believe likely going to a cr@ppy Biz Class seat on AF.

2) If you're flying Y, you're going to get whatever seats are left over at the last minute, which is VERY likely to be a bad seat.

I try to avoid AF TATL's simply because I feel that DL recognizes Medallions MUCH better, seating-wise, and much more!

:)

monitor Apr 18, 2014 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 22724923)
...I try to avoid AF TATL's simply because I feel that DL recognizes Medallions MUCH better, seating-wise, and much more!...
:)

TITCR ^

js80 Apr 20, 2014 4:42 am


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 22724923)
As mentioned above, int'l is simply not possible, but, I'd be curious to know your thoughts (js80's), on a couple of thingz . . . .

Are you flying Y or J?

1) If you're in J on a DL op'd flight now, you're likely on a plane with a lie-flat bed/seat, and, I believe likely going to a cr@ppy Biz Class seat on AF.

2) If you're flying Y, you're going to get whatever seats are left over at the last minute, which is VERY likely to be a bad seat.


:)

I'm flying J and it's just the opposite unfortunately. DLs aircraft for my flight is its 75(e). AF flies it's 747-400. So in this case DL gives a bucket seat versus AF giving the lie flat. Precisely the reason I'd be looking to switch. I booked DL because I was using skymiles. No status with either airline so that's a non issue for me.

MSPeconomist Apr 20, 2014 4:46 am


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22731555)
I'm flying J and it's just the opposite unfortunately. DLs aircraft for my flight is its 75(e). AF flies it's 747-400. So in this case DL gives a bucket seat versus AF giving the lie flat. Precisely the reason I'd be looking to switch. I booked DL because I was using skymiles. No status with either airline so that's a non issue for me.

If you have an award ticket with DL miles, you should be able to change to the AF flight before T-72 if there's low award availability on the flight you want and if you pay the $150 change fee for DL award tickets as a nonelite.

If you paid more than LOW miles for your current award ticket in this direction, the extra miles will be refunded to your FF account.

davetravels Apr 20, 2014 7:55 am


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22731555)
AF flies it's 747-400. So in this case DL gives a bucket seat versus AF giving the lie flat.

According to SeatGuru:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...ng_747-400.php

The AF B744 Biz Class seats are "Angle-Flat" - not "Lie-Flat". While I'm not really familiar with the AF seat in particular, the DL (former NW) angle-flat seats could be considered only marginally better than the B752 "Barcalounger" seats, as the angle seats cause all of your body weight to be pushing on your feet to support your body on the foot rest. I'm not really sure how this compares with the AF seat.

gooselee Apr 20, 2014 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 22731945)

Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22731555)
AF flies it's 747-400. So in this case DL gives a bucket seat versus AF giving the lie flat.

According to SeatGuru:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...ng_747-400.php

The AF B744 Biz Class seats are "Angle-Flat" - not "Lie-Flat". While I'm not really familiar with the AF seat in particular, the DL (former NW) angle-flat seats could be considered only marginally better than the B752 "Barcalounger" seats, as the angle seats cause all of your body weight to be pushing on your feet to support your body on the foot rest. I'm not really sure how this compares with the AF seat.

AF J is angled lie flat, not flat bed. The seat "unfolds" to 180 degrees, but when flat it is not parallel to the floor, so it kind of acts like a slide and everything slides into the footrest. Not the best by far.

AF is updating to true flat beds, but is starting with the 777s and it will be several years before the fleet is converted, IIRC.

davetravels Apr 20, 2014 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by gooselee (Post 22733150)
The seat "unfolds" to 180 degrees, but when flat it is not parallel to the floor, so it kind of acts like a slide and everything slides into the footrest. Not the best by far.

So, you're saying that is is, indeed, similar to the older, former NW pod seats?

js80 Apr 20, 2014 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 22731561)
If you have an award ticket with DL miles, you should be able to change to the AF flight before T-72 if there's low award availability on the flight you want and if you pay the $150 change fee for DL award tickets as a nonelite.

If you paid more than LOW miles for your current award ticket in this direction, the extra miles will be refunded to your FF account.

I would actually need to find 2 seats with low award availability, so not likely to happen. Oh well.

js80 Apr 20, 2014 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 22731945)
According to SeatGuru:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...ng_747-400.php

The AF B744 Biz Class seats are "Angle-Flat" - not "Lie-Flat". While I'm not really familiar with the AF seat in particular, the DL (former NW) angle-flat seats could be considered only marginally better than the B752 "Barcalounger" seats, as the angle seats cause all of your body weight to be pushing on your feet to support your body on the foot rest. I'm not really sure how this compares with the AF seat.

The really annoying thing about this is that when I originally booked the flight, DL listed it as being flown by its 767, which I believe would have been true lie flat. Somewhere along the way there was an aircraft switch.

I did at least get 25k skymiles per ticket credited back to my account when I called to make a complaint.

MSPeconomist Apr 20, 2014 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by gooselee (Post 22733150)
AF J is angled lie flat, not flat bed. The seat "unfolds" to 180 degrees, but when flat it is not parallel to the floor, so it kind of acts like a slide and everything slides into the footrest. Not the best by far.

AF is updating to true flat beds, but is starting with the 777s and it will be several years before the fleet is converted, IIRC.

AF also has 2-3-2 seating in business class on some long haul aircraft. To me, this is unacceptable.

CMK10 Apr 21, 2014 7:00 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 22734493)
AF also has 2-3-2 seating in business class on some long haul aircraft. To me, this is unacceptable.

As long as airlines have three classes (F, J, Y) I can accept it.

MSPeconomist Apr 21, 2014 8:12 am


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 22735777)
As long as airlines have three classes (F, J, Y) I can accept it.

I guess I could accept it if I were in FC, but as we know, you can't use DL miles for IFC award tickets or to upgrade into IFC on any partner.


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