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Dovster Mar 15, 2013 7:45 am


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 20423710)
Not to take this to a political left turn, but many innocent people including women and children were raped and killed during that campaign. Had their property taken and their homes burned. If one were to make a lighthearted joke about similar events that happened to other people, the PC police would be aghast and deem it "outrageously offensive"*... It does not offend me personally, but I like to note these matters for posterity...

Many innocent people have suffered from every war. There comes a time when the memories are not so fresh as to be impossible to joke about. Certainly, we can make jokes about Ghengis Kahn or Alexander the Great's campaigns.

While the Holocaust is certainly much too recent to be able to joke about it in good taste, there was another, earlier, attempt at a Holocaust. It was in Persia and many innocent people did, indeed, die -- and most of these were Jews.

Yet, Judaism as a religion today jokes about that. In fact, the holiday that notes it, Purim, is marked with jokes, drinking, and Halloween-type costumes.

The Civil War ended in 1865 -- that was 148 years ago. Nobody who lived through Sherman's march on Georgia is alive today. I doubt that any of their children are alive today. Some, but not many, of their grandchildren are.

My grandfather was a bootlegger during Prohibition. He never talked about it to us. My father did not discuss it much (nor the fact that my grandfather was related to Bugsy Seigel). I have no problem in talking about it at all. Both of my children, who are also descended from a famous Hebrew journalist/satirist, barely mentioned him in their school "family tree" reports but went on at length about their bootlegger great-grandfather and Bugsy.

PRWeezer Mar 15, 2013 7:48 am


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 20423710)
Not to take this to a political left turn, but many innocent people including women and children were raped and killed during that campaign. Had their property taken and their homes burned. If one were to make a lighthearted joke about similar events that happened to other people, the PC police would be aghast and deem it "outrageously offensive"*... It does not offend me personally, but I like to note these matters for posterity...

Heck, I was waiting for the PC police to call out against using the word Dixie. :)

We will be doing our own march to the sea this afternoon, fighting traffic not Yankee soldiers, to get to my hometown SAV for the holiday weekend. Hope not to encounter anything on fire along the way.

As for the picture posted up thread - who still does that sunglasses on the back of your head thing?

Thomas Hudson Mar 15, 2013 8:01 am


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 20423781)
Many innocent people have suffered from every war. There comes a time when the memories are not so fresh as to be impossible to joke about. Certainly, we can make jokes about Ghengis Kahn or Alexander the Great's campaigns.

While the Holocaust is certainly much too recent to be able to joke about it in good taste, there was another, earlier, attempt at a Holocaust. It was in Persia and many innocent people did, indeed, die -- and most of these were Jews.

Yet, Judaism as a religion today jokes about that. In fact, the holiday that notes it, Purim, is marked with jokes, drinking, and Halloween-type costumes.

The Civil War ended in 1865 -- that was 148 years ago. Nobody who lived through Sherman's march on Georgia is alive today. I doubt that any of their children are alive today. Some, but not many, of their grandchildren are.

My grandfather was a bootlegger during Prohibition. He never talked about it to us. My father did not discuss it much (nor the fact that my grandfather was related to Bugsy Seigel). I have no problem in talking about it at all. Both of my children, who are also descended from a famous Hebrew journalist/satirist, barely mentioned him in their school "family tree" reports but went on at length about their bootlegger great-grandfather and Bugsy.

Ok, so what is the acceptable go time when it comes to making fun of people who were slaughtered or enslaved? I am holding onto to some awesome injun jokes...

Thomas Hudson Mar 15, 2013 8:02 am


Originally Posted by PRWeezer (Post 20423795)
Heck, I was waiting for the PC police to call out against using the word Dixie. :)

We will be doing our own march to the sea this afternoon, fighting traffic not Yankee soldiers, to get to my hometown SAV for the holiday weekend. Hope not to encounter anything on fire along the way.

As for the picture posted up thread - who still does that sunglasses on the back of your head thing?

Dixie Carter is an American treasure....

Dovster Mar 15, 2013 8:05 am


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 20423860)
Ok, so what is the acceptable go time when it comes to making fun of people who were slaughtered or enslaved? I am holding onto to some awesome injun jokes...

I would say when Native Americans and the descendants of slaves are no longer suffering from what happened to their ancestors. That day, unfortunately, has not yet arrived.

On the other hand, from my visits to Atlanta, I would say that the city has recovered completely from Sherman's march.

Thomas Hudson Mar 15, 2013 8:13 am


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 20423876)
I would say when Native Americans and the descendants of slaves are no longer suffering from what happened to their ancestors. That day, unfortunately, has not yet arrived.

On the other hand, from my visits to Atlanta, I would say that the city has recovered completely from Sherman's march.

The guy I work for is a billionaire and is.... Uhhh.... Not too affected by the uhhhh.... Stuff that uhhh...

Never mind...

PRWeezer Mar 15, 2013 8:28 am


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 20423862)
Dixie Carter is an American treasure....

Indeed she is, as is the guy you work for, if I'm reading it with the right accent. :cool:

Scandalrag Mar 15, 2013 9:23 am


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 20423710)
Not to take this to a political left turn, but many innocent people including women and children were raped and killed during that campaign. Had their property taken and their homes burned. If one were to make a lighthearted joke about similar events that happened to other people, the PC police would be aghast and deem it "outrageously offensive"*... It does not offend me personally, but I like to note these matters for posterity...

More to the point, it would be historically inaccurate. Confederate General John Bell Hood set that fire to cover his retreat and keep any supplies from falling into Sherman's hands. Sherman didn't start his foraging camapaign (General Order 120) until he set out for Macon a month later, so burning the supplies only hurt the citizens of Atlanta.

Thomas Hudson Mar 15, 2013 9:54 am


Originally Posted by Scandalrag (Post 20424326)
More to the point, it would be historically inaccurate. Confederate General John Bell Hood set that fire to cover his retreat and keep any supplies from falling into Sherman's hands. Sherman didn't start his foraging camapaign (General Order 120) until he set out for Macon a month later, so burning the supplies only hurt the citizens of Atlanta.

Atlanta was shelled for days in a terror attack similar to what happened in Charleston. Many of its civilians were killed, raped, tortured, and/or displaced. To state Hood totally destroyed Atlanta as a strategic move is highly misleading.

I had people on both sides of that terrible war, so I am not a rah, rah South guy.... Just a student of history...

N639DL Mar 15, 2013 11:35 am


Originally Posted by iTanNicNic (Post 20422589)
Fair use image from linked article:

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/l...rport-fire.jpg

Gate lice!

Will be landing in ATL soon.

IceTrojan Mar 15, 2013 12:27 pm

I keep forgetting that you can't make jokes on the DL board.

So... is ATL running at 100% today?

Gargoyle Mar 15, 2013 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 20423781)
Both of my children, who are also descended from a famous Hebrew journalist/satirist,

Wow! Both of your children are descended from you?

azeckel Mar 15, 2013 12:39 pm

ATL on fire thread!
 
Could this thread become legendary? It has all the elements so far. Catchy title enticing everyone to read? Check. Way off topic political ramblings? Check. Really long posts that few will read but those that do will respond by quoting the full post? Check. What else do we need?

mridley2 Mar 15, 2013 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by usa18dca (Post 20421972)
You do realize that the Taxiway D at ATL is named Dixie as to not confuse Delta with Delta Airlines too? Dixie is fitting considering ATL is in the South after all. :D


O, I wish I was in Dixie! Hooray! Hooray!

PRWeezer Mar 15, 2013 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by azeckel (Post 20425479)
Could this thread become legendary? It has all the elements so far. Catchy title enticing everyone to read? Check. Way off topic political ramblings? Check. Really long posts that few will read but those that do will respond by quoting the full post? Check. What else do we need?

One thing missing - Shenanigans! It was all a ruse so a GA's BFF could make it on a flight on a buddy pass. :eek:

Being this close to St. Patrick's Day, I'm sure there will be more Shenanigans than normal.


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