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jondysse Feb 21, 2013 3:56 pm

Is it wise to buy skyclub membership with skypesos?
 
I looked for a thread and could not find one matching my question - sorry if there's any duplication here.

I'm weighing the pros and cons of getting delta SkyClub membership using the option to pay with skypesos. The cost for a Plat like me buying a membership with miles is 40k miles or 300$. I don't think I'd fly enough to reach Diamond this year and get the lounge access for free.

I'm inclined towards the miles payment because I hear redemption is quite poor on DL (I'm a new DL flyer). And I've heard that 40k miles won't get you much more than a standard domestic roundtrip ticket on DL.

Would anyone care to weigh in whether they think paying with miles or paying with cash is the better option?

Denolloyd Feb 21, 2013 4:02 pm

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In my humble opinion, absolutely not worth it. But, YMMV. I only use miles for international J travel.

BobH Feb 21, 2013 4:10 pm

Not a bad idea .... but

Do the math and before you decide anything look for discounts/ benes that you can stack with your status.

Bob H

javabytes Feb 21, 2013 4:28 pm

Depends what you plan to use your miles for. If you otherwise plan to redeem your miles for domestic coach flights, then your value per mile is likely going to be lower and a SC redemption might make sense. But if you plan to redeem your miles for international business class flights, then 40k SM for a $300 SC membership doesn't make sense when that's almost half way to a $3k-4k flight.

eturowski Feb 21, 2013 4:49 pm

It is also worth noting that in a week, that 40,000 SM/$300 PM SC membership goes to 40,000 SM/$350. If you are thinking about this purchase on or after 3/1, the SM redemption rate improves slightly (or, more accurately, it sucks a little bit less). With that in mind, if you are considering using SM for a SC membership, there's no rush to buy now in anticipation of the rate hike. If you are going to use cash, buy now and save the extra $50.

orr333 Feb 21, 2013 5:14 pm

I will most likely hit DM this year for the first time but did just buy the SC for myself. I also tossed around the 40K mileage burn but opted for the the monthly pay. It elevates it to a little over $300 but easier to get my wife to agree to. ;-)

So far, I am loving the lounge access and looking forward to visiting the KLM lounge in AMS in a week!

rusrocket Feb 21, 2013 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by jondysse (Post 20293024)
I looked for a thread and could not find one matching my question - sorry if there's any duplication here.

I'm weighing the pros and cons of getting delta SkyClub membership using the option to pay with skypesos. The cost for a Plat like me buying a membership with miles is 40k miles or 300$. I don't think I'd fly enough to reach Diamond this year and get the lounge access for free.

I'm inclined towards the miles payment because I hear redemption is quite poor on DL (I'm a new DL flyer). And I've heard that 40k miles won't get you much more than a standard domestic roundtrip ticket on DL.

Would anyone care to weigh in whether they think paying with miles or paying with cash is the better option?

You are effectively selling your miles for 0.75 cents per mile. So it all depends on how much you value the skypesos. I personally value skypesos at around 1.2 cents so if I were in your situation I would pay 300$. If you take a look at the delta auctions, you will see that some people value skypesos at close to 0. Everyone is different. Good luck.

agarc Feb 21, 2013 8:07 pm

I think so
 
I paid for my SC membership...but I would've totally used miles if I had the chance (I didn't have enough as I was new to DL). Clubs are too crowded to justify paying actual cash IMO. Coming from UA, 40K miles is on par with what I would've spent as a 1K (when UA allowed membership dues via miles). So, I say go for it, especially if you know you won't make Diamond.

FWIW, I only use my miles for flying friends and family - if I'm flying, I'm earning. My $0.02.

Originally Posted by jondysse (Post 20293024)
I looked for a thread and could not find one matching my question - sorry if there's any duplication here.

I'm weighing the pros and cons of getting delta SkyClub membership using the option to pay with skypesos. The cost for a Plat like me buying a membership with miles is 40k miles or 300$. I don't think I'd fly enough to reach Diamond this year and get the lounge access for free.

I'm inclined towards the miles payment because I hear redemption is quite poor on DL (I'm a new DL flyer). And I've heard that 40k miles won't get you much more than a standard domestic roundtrip ticket on DL.

Would anyone care to weigh in whether they think paying with miles or paying with cash is the better option?


RhinoDL Feb 21, 2013 8:41 pm

Have you thought about the skyBonus program; we subscribe to that program and easily purchased lounge membership for several of us within 3 months of flying (although some was international and a pretty penny). You can get 30k just for joining so you really only need 70k more skybonus miles.

MSPeconomist Feb 21, 2013 8:45 pm

Don't forget to compare the cost of buying some day passes (or single entrances for $25 if you have a DL AmEx card). Consider also the option of getting either a Reserve card or the regular AmEx Plat charge card; either one gets you into SCs when flying DL and they carry about the same annual fee, but beyond that the benefits are very different so compare carefully.

CarmenOM Feb 21, 2013 9:39 pm

I've purchased my SC membership with miles for three years in a row. I rarely use award tickets for myself (I need to be earning miles), only for family, and can afford to spend the miles more easily than dollars. I usually have at least 200,000 SkyMiles in my account, so it doesn't make a huge dent in my supply.

jondysse Feb 22, 2013 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by CarmenOM (Post 20294715)
I've purchased my SC membership with miles for three years in a row. I rarely use award tickets for myself (I need to be earning miles), only for family, and can afford to spend the miles more easily than dollars. I usually have at least 200,000 SkyMiles in my account, so it doesn't make a huge dent in my supply.

Yea, I actually have about 300k miles on another airline (US) and would love to spend them before they leave *A but don't really have room in my schedule to do so right now. While DL is attractive for int'l J options, I don't really foresee touching DL miles before I spend down those other miles.

So, I'm still seriously weighing the option.... but I didn't realize that it really will cost me an additional 10k in miles or 50$ for initiation. Is there any way around that?

NotHamSarnie Feb 22, 2013 11:24 pm

Weighing the same thing. I'll be non-DM March 1 for the first time since DMs were inaugurated. bouhou. Anyway, it looks like my free SC membership doesn't expire with my DM status, but remains until June 6. I have no idea why - do we get a grace period or something? I've never paid for SC membership so it's not that I have extra time. Right now I can renew for 40k miles with the renewal not taking effect until June 6. If I wait until then to decide, at which time I'll be PM, will the renewal fee still be 40k miles, or is it more expensive for PMS?

CarmenOM Feb 23, 2013 10:59 am


Originally Posted by NotHamSarnie (Post 20301107)
Weighing the same thing. I'll be non-DM March 1 for the first time since DMs were inaugurated. bouhou. Anyway, it looks like my free SC membership doesn't expire with my DM status, but remains until June 6. I have no idea why - do we get a grace period or something? I've never paid for SC membership so it's not that I have extra time. Right now I can renew for 40k miles with the renewal not taking effect until June 6. If I wait until then to decide, at which time I'll be PM, will the renewal fee still be 40k miles, or is it more expensive for PMS?

It is 40,000 for PM.

mnredfox Feb 23, 2013 11:32 am

Use dirt to buy more dirt? ;)


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