Compare AF Premium Economy and DL EC
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: VA
Programs: DL PM, A+Elite, Marriott Gold
Posts: 78
Compare AF Premium Economy and DL EC
From US to Europe, price is around $500 more with AF.
Never been on either on long haul. Was in Affaires once but the price is too high now.
Pros and cons? Sorry if this has been discussed before.
Never been on either on long haul. Was in Affaires once but the price is too high now.
Pros and cons? Sorry if this has been discussed before.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.3MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,
Posts: 5,194
You cannot compare. AF is offering premium economy, a completely different class of service with completely different seats and arrangement. Delta is offering Economy Comfort-which is nothing more than a few more inches of leg room. Just another thing wrong with US carriers.
#4
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: Fallen DL DM (PM) 2MM
Posts: 4,783
You also get MQM and RDM bonuses with AF PV.
#8
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: DL DM; SPG Gold
Posts: 1,733
Used to be same meal as Y, got sightly improved recently.
http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common...stauration.htm
and for OP, here is a description of the AF premium economy cabin:
http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common...omy_a_bord.htm
Finally, Premium Economy fare earns 150% MQM.
http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common...stauration.htm
and for OP, here is a description of the AF premium economy cabin:
http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common...omy_a_bord.htm
Finally, Premium Economy fare earns 150% MQM.
#9
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MEM
Programs: DL DM, Marriott/Starwood Plat
Posts: 441
I'm short so the AF PV seats are great, the seat fits me perfect and the recline in a shell works for me. I could see how it wouldn't work as well for people over 5'10".
I can actually sleep in PV, I think the leg support and the adjustable headrest is what makes it work for me.
For me it has been in the $1600 range for AF PV and $1200 for delta coach and I've been taking the AF, even though CDG is a cluster compared to AMS.
I can actually sleep in PV, I think the leg support and the adjustable headrest is what makes it work for me.
For me it has been in the $1600 range for AF PV and $1200 for delta coach and I've been taking the AF, even though CDG is a cluster compared to AMS.
#10
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: Delta Gold, silver, what yr is it?
Posts: 2,412
I'm short so the AF PV seats are great, the seat fits me perfect and the recline in a shell works for me. I could see how it wouldn't work as well for people over 5'10".
I can actually sleep in PV, I think the leg support and the adjustable headrest is what makes it work for me.
For me it has been in the $1600 range for AF PV and $1200 for delta coach and I've been taking the AF, even though CDG is a cluster compared to AMS.
I can actually sleep in PV, I think the leg support and the adjustable headrest is what makes it work for me.
For me it has been in the $1600 range for AF PV and $1200 for delta coach and I've been taking the AF, even though CDG is a cluster compared to AMS.
#11
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: PRG
Programs: SkyMiles Diamond, TK Elite, Air Berlin Gold, HHonors Gold, Club Carlson Silver
Posts: 232
Maybe I'm only one, but I don't like AF PE seats.
I'm 6'4" and footrest is totally unusable for me, because it doesn't start under knees.
I also find seats very hard. I made 8 longhauls in PE in 2 months in 2011 and my ... still remember
On other hand my wife who is 5'4" likes it very much...
I'm 6'4" and footrest is totally unusable for me, because it doesn't start under knees.
I also find seats very hard. I made 8 longhauls in PE in 2 months in 2011 and my ... still remember
On other hand my wife who is 5'4" likes it very much...
#12
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SFO, SJC
Programs: AS MVP 75K
Posts: 286
More legroom and recline (and the bulkhead seats have the raised footrests too), amenity kit, blanket, and pillow same as J, food similar to Y except for champagne and Valrhona chocolates after the main meal. If you have the option of flying the a380, take the window seat to have additional storage bin on your side.
These and the additional MQMs are what you should assess whether it's worth $500 more to you, vs. just the additional legroom with EC.
These and the additional MQMs are what you should assess whether it's worth $500 more to you, vs. just the additional legroom with EC.
Last edited by wp_kid; Feb 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm
#13
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NYC + LAX + SEA
Programs: DL/UA/AA/BA
Posts: 587
I flew TATL PV last weekend and can confirm that while the entree is Y, the appetizer and desserts are different. You get a real pillow and blanket, btl water and amenity kit (half contents of Affaires). The seat surface articulates/slides cradle like (two buttons, just up and down) with good leg raise and footrest. Reports are true that its thin/uncomfortable at shoulder level. No lounge access unless Elite+.
I understand that inter-Europe the food is the same as business, just no free middle seat. Within France (I flew W last week) all seats/service is the same onboard.
I understand that inter-Europe the food is the same as business, just no free middle seat. Within France (I flew W last week) all seats/service is the same onboard.