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KingofVegas Jan 31, 2013 9:17 am


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 20159655)
Each flight segment is 2200. That means roundtrip is 4400. I get Silver with 6 trips, not 8. Also, miles rollover and Amex adds to MQMs, not MQSs.

Gocha thought you meant flights...... My Fault :D

benzemalyonnais Jan 31, 2013 9:20 am

This does work from NYC or BOS decently well, although it's not worth it unless one loves planes.

HongKonger Jan 31, 2013 9:55 am


Originally Posted by KingofVegas (Post 20159546)
It's so cute how you defend and support each other.

It reminds me of the girl scouts LOL

I wasn't making fun of you. If segments are wrong I don't want to be right.

And not girl scouts but brownies... a boy scout's favorite food.

roknroll Jan 31, 2013 11:35 am

this thread just got good :)

KingofVegas Jan 31, 2013 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 20159934)
I wasn't making fun of you. If segments are wrong I don't want to be right.

And not girl scouts but brownies... a boy scout's favorite food.

Ohh but your the expert Platinum so please educate me sir.......

Just one question.... Do you have a "Platinum" Tatoo?

johnslloyd Jan 31, 2013 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by SamOF (Post 20155594)
It's clear that qualifying on segments allows more time to drink in flight!

Unless the segment is too short for drink service - as often is the case. I -think- the current DL criteria is 275 miles or less, no service.

32767a Jan 31, 2013 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by CJKatl (Post 20159088)
OP, if you go back a few years, connecting flights were priced pretty close to direct flights. That's usually no longer the case. If you are flying out of ATL, for example, adding a stop in MEM, CVG, DTW or MSP will usually add hundreds of dollars to your fare. I sometimes try to add a stop in MEM so I can get Interstate BBQ, but lately it's been impossible to do without changing an ~$300 fare into an $800+ fare.

Not to mention if you are really flying for work, each stop adds time and adds an additional layer of risk that you will miss a flight or you checked bag won't make the connection. And each segment, or segment group, is another trip to the airport, through TSA and to the gate, where you have to wait to board.

Finally, most of us who qualify on segments spend much more money than those who qualify on miles. Even if I fly four segments per r/t, and even if I get incredible fares of $300 r/t, that's still $2,250 to reach FO. One r/t to BKK is half that, and it gets to about 22k miles. Throw in an ATL-SAN r/t and you can be FO for $1,500 on miles.

As someone who averages over 100 segments per year, mostly on direct flights, you should trust me that segments qualification isn't all that easy.

That...

I average in the 140-160 segments per year, with an increasing percentage on RJs with no F. (was about 80% last year, about 90% so far this year. Where did all the MDs go???)

Segments suck as a way to qualify. Your total transit time to your destination may be 3.5 to 4h and instead of a 2h direct flight, you get to do the <10,000 foot dance twice, so probably 3 of those 4h are boarding, deplaning, taxiing, landing etc.. All places where you can't do anything but read a book. All in a pint sized plane with no F..

akcae Jan 31, 2013 1:12 pm

There are many good ways to qualify for Medallion, and everyone's particular travel situation may lend itself to a specific strategy. Years ago when I traveled very frequently for work, and Plat was top tier, I qualified for PM three years in a row on segments, falling far short on MQMs, even with my 10K MQM Amex boost. My travel was up-n'-down east coast, always having to connect in ATL or CVG (remember that?) with very few occasional trips out west.

So, whatever works...

HongKonger Jan 31, 2013 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by KingofVegas (Post 20161070)
Ohh but your the expert Platinum so please educate me sir.......

Just one question.... Do you have a "Platinum" Tatoo?

I have a full-body tattoo of me, but taller.

kitkat77 Jan 31, 2013 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by troyintn (Post 20156766)
that is my biggest gripe. I wonder what will happen with MQD when some of the short haul folks have spent 15k with 90 segments and only 60k miles start complaining.

This. Weekly traveler with 100 segments and 18K+ spend (after taxes) from June-Dec 2012, but only 59K MQMs. When comparing fares, Delta and AA tend to be about the same on cost and everything else is considerably more $$.

However, I'm with the majority here who thinks that one size fits all does not apply. It all depends on your travel pattern and home airport as to which makes more sense.

roknroll Jan 31, 2013 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 20161231)
I have a full-body tattoo of me, but taller.

lol

skyvanman Jan 31, 2013 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 20161231)
I have a full-body tattoo of me, but taller.

So can we call that a Kyrptonium tattoo?

mattsteg Jan 31, 2013 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by KingofVegas (Post 20159527)
It's called the "TRAVEL DAY" lol Tack one on to the begining and end of every trip lol

Some of us have better things to do than waste our workday in transit. Absent giving up your weekend, you really should not be spending a whole day in transit domestically, unless you're on your own time doing it for recreation.

KingofVegas Jan 31, 2013 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by mattsteg (Post 20163038)
Some of us have better things to do than waste our workday in transit. Absent giving up your weekend, you really should not be spending a whole day in transit domestically, unless you're on your own time doing it for recreation.

Oh please tell me what else I should be not be doing....

You fools need to get over your rules they only mean something to other so called "EXPERTS" like you.

My weekends are guaranteed at home and my day's are fully paid on the airplane or at the office.

mattsteg Jan 31, 2013 8:54 pm


Originally Posted by KingofVegas (Post 20163591)
Oh please tell me what else I should be not be doing....

You fools need to get over your rules they only mean something to other so called "EXPERTS" like you.

My weekends are guaranteed at home and my day's are fully paid on the airplane or at the office.

So in other words, you expect to work 3 days, and be paid for 5? Sounds like your employer is getting a terrible value.


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