The Official Medallion Qualification Update Thread
#31
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If you buy an AF ticket JFK-CDG you won't get MQD. However, DL will still get a slice of the pie as revenue and profits are shared in the TATL JV.
#32
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
What's interesting is, all of the sudden, there's two classes of Delta partners. JV (AF, KL, AZ) and business partners (Alaska, Gol, Aeromexico), and then there's the other SkyTeam partners. Maybe one day they'll let us accrue MQDs on those carriers too.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
What's interesting is, all of the sudden, there's two classes of Delta partners. JV (AF, KL, AZ) and business partners (Alaska, Gol, Aeromexico), and then there's the other SkyTeam partners. Maybe one day they'll let us accrue MQDs on those carriers too.
#34
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Holy crap! Has anyone looked at the MQM earning rates for partner airlines? There are substantial reductions especially with Asian partners. Down to 50% on KE econ classes and only 100% in biz.
#35
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It's hit the wires:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...140000338.html
"Medallion level earning to focus on providing high value customers an even more exclusive SkyMiles Medallion program experience"
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...140000338.html
"Medallion level earning to focus on providing high value customers an even more exclusive SkyMiles Medallion program experience"
Back when I first earned medallion status in the late '90s certain fare codes were not upgrade eligible (LUT IIRC). In other words, there was a revenue component - an incentive to spend more money if you wanted to 'receive the best program benefits.' Today, a GM or above on an award ticket can be upgraded...not so exclusive any more.
#36
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
What's interesting is, all of the sudden, there's two classes of Delta partners. JV (AF, KL, AZ) and business partners (Alaska, Gol, Aeromexico), and then there's the other SkyTeam partners. Maybe one day they'll let us accrue MQDs on those carriers too.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
What's interesting is, all of the sudden, there's two classes of Delta partners. JV (AF, KL, AZ) and business partners (Alaska, Gol, Aeromexico), and then there's the other SkyTeam partners. Maybe one day they'll let us accrue MQDs on those carriers too.
The End of Skyteam.
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#39
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Summary in a nutshell:
If you don't fly on a DL 006 ticket with DL flight numbers, you get hosed.
No MQD on partner tickets, and severely slashed MQM on almost all partners as well. Just wait until pax start realizing that their EU trips that got re-ticketed into 074 screw them over.
If you don't fly on a DL 006 ticket with DL flight numbers, you get hosed.
No MQD on partner tickets, and severely slashed MQM on almost all partners as well. Just wait until pax start realizing that their EU trips that got re-ticketed into 074 screw them over.
Last edited by rylan; Jan 17, 2013 at 8:44 am
#40
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
Also, what's up with excluding earning on ST-coded flights operated by SV? Every page I've looked at (outside of SV, of course) says that accrual is not allowed on flights operated by SV.
#42
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I think that the number of folks accruing 50k MQMs on less than $5k in spend will be relatively limited.
#43
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This really devalues the program. No reason to fly Aeroflot or Czech anymore. Good thing I have already started switching over my spend to UA and *A.
This combined with the nearly impossible redemptions on AF and AZ will probably push me to some combination of OW and *A for the future.
This combined with the nearly impossible redemptions on AF and AZ will probably push me to some combination of OW and *A for the future.