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rylan Apr 23, 2013 6:44 am


Originally Posted by krose1701 (Post 20637653)
I have to book my flights through a travel agency and the flights are paid for by my company. Will those flights count toward MDM's?

Yes, assuming they are issued on DL 006 stock, or have DL flight numbers if not on partner stock (still don't see how that spend will get tracked properly).

AA_EXP09 Apr 23, 2013 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by krose1701 (Post 20637653)
I have to book my flights through a travel agency and the flights are paid for by my company. Will those flights count toward MDM's?

Might be different if they are unpublished fares (which is what I tend to use a bit-especially since AA.com doesn't show AA-KE/VN itins very often, and because other carriers like interline with JL, reducing O/N/Q availability on that carrier, and the AA codeshares are often more expensive.)

AA_EXP09 May 6, 2013 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by mridley2 (Post 20569739)
My understanding is the latter. Fly MQM's and MQD's in 2014 for 2015 status (good through Feb 29 2016). or Fly MQM/MQS and spend $25K on AMEX in 2014 and earn 2015 status.

But we'll see how this whole thing rolls out. I'm skeptical MQD's will be implemented if UA/AA don't follow suit with a similar revenue based component.

I for one fly (almost) exclusively on LUT(XVE) fares because corporate travel requires 21+ day advance purchase and personal travel I'm always looking for the best deal (i.e. advance purchase). But I fly 100K miles each year and that number is only going to increase.

If I can't attain PM status with DL with 100k MQM's (BIS miles, no AMEX), I'll status match to UA. Period.

I'm based out of NYC. DL is not my only option. period.

AA is also a good option IMO

bdschobel May 6, 2013 8:57 pm

Here's an interesting technical question that may have been covered already (but I didn't see it in this long thread):

How will Delta handle tickets that cross over years? For instance, I bought a ticket in 2013 for a trip leaving in 2013 but returning in 2014. Obviously, I paid for the ticket in 2013 (because you have to pay in advance). So it could count as 2013 spending (which doesn't matter this year but will going forward). But I should get credit for the cost of the flights taken in 2014. How will Delta split the cost, or won't they bother?

Bruce

FlyDeltaJets87 May 6, 2013 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by bdschobel (Post 20709238)
Here's an interesting technical question that may have been covered already (but I didn't see it in this long thread):

How will Delta handle tickets that cross over years? For instance, I bought a ticket in 2013 for a trip leaving in 2013 but returning in 2014. Obviously, I paid for the ticket in 2013 (because you have to pay in advance). So it could count as 2013 spending (which doesn't matter this year but will going forward). But I should get credit for the cost of the flights taken in 2014. How will Delta split the cost, or won't they bother?

Bruce

If you get down into the nitty gritty of the fare details it should so the fare per segment (or at least outbound and return). So it should split over the year just as the MQMs do.

mikeef May 7, 2013 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by bdschobel (Post 20709238)
Here's an interesting technical question that may have been covered already (but I didn't see it in this long thread):

How will Delta handle tickets that cross over years? For instance, I bought a ticket in 2013 for a trip leaving in 2013 but returning in 2014. Obviously, I paid for the ticket in 2013 (because you have to pay in advance). So it could count as 2013 spending (which doesn't matter this year but will going forward). But I should get credit for the cost of the flights taken in 2014. How will Delta split the cost, or won't they bother?

Bruce

They'll determine what's least advantageous for the customer and do it that way, even if it takes until 2015 to decide.

Mike

brocklee9000 May 25, 2013 6:44 pm

I know this will have been mentioned somewhere in this thread already, but there are nearly 170 pages so far. Ain't nobody got time for that. I just became FO (yes, yes, I know it means nothing...), and just learning about frequent flyer stuff and have now come across MQDs. Normally if you achieve a status it counts for the year in which you attain it, as well as the next calendar year. So will my current status (or anything else I get this year) continue throughout 2014 without the MQD requirement, or will I lose my short-lived status I just got? And if I understand correctly, MQDs will only start being counted Jan 1st 2014. So that means the $2200 I just payed for a RT won't count, right?

Normally I research this stuff on my own, but there's too much to read through, and a lot of what I've seen are people complaining about losing status/thinning out of ranks. I just want an answer to my questions. Or you can link me to the posts that deal with it, if you know where it is.
Thanks

Howste May 25, 2013 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 20811416)
I know this will have been mentioned somewhere in this thread already, but there are nearly 170 pages so far. Ain't nobody got time for that. I just became FO (yes, yes, I know it means nothing...), and just learning about frequent flyer stuff and have now come across MQDs. Normally if you achieve a status it counts for the year in which you attain it, as well as the next calendar year. So will my current status (or anything else I get this year) continue throughout 2014 without the MQD requirement, or will I lose my short-lived status I just got? And if I understand correctly, MQDs will only start being counted Jan 1st 2014. So that means the $2200 I just payed for a RT won't count, right?

Normally I research this stuff on my own, but there's too much to read through, and a lot of what I've seen are people complaining about losing status/thinning out of ranks. I just want an answer to my questions. Or you can link me to the posts that deal with it, if you know where it is.
Thanks

You'll keep your FO status you earned this year through 2014 and a couple of months into 2015. After that it depends on what you do next year. The $2200 you just spent won't count for MQDs for your 2015 status.

brocklee9000 May 25, 2013 8:48 pm

Okay, thanks. Exactly what I needed to know.

Bowgie May 26, 2013 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 20811416)
ISo will my current status (or anything else I get this year) continue throughout 2014 without the MQD requirement, or will I lose my short-lived status I just got? And if I understand correctly, MQDs will only start being counted Jan 1st 2014. So that means the $2200 I just payed for a RT won't count, right?

The other replies are correct. However, if you FLY the two grand price trip in 2014, it should count as MQD's for your elite status renewal in 2015. But not if you fly this year.

brocklee9000 May 26, 2013 11:42 pm

Cool. I fly it once or twice a year, plus other incidental flights like to visit family or vacation or whatever. Thanks.

zgscl Jun 7, 2013 9:21 pm

If they are going the MQD route I almost wish they would dump MQMs and MQSs and just have a straight forward revenue based system.

brocklee9000 Jun 7, 2013 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by zgscl (Post 20885575)
If they are going the MQD route I almost wish they would dump MQMs and MQSs and just have a straight forward revenue based system.

Amen

monitor Jun 7, 2013 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by zgscl (Post 20885575)
If they are going the MQD route I almost wish they would dump MQMs and MQSs and just have a straight forward revenue based system.

The MQM requirements favor those who fly longer routes while the MQS requirements help those who fly lots of short routes. Some of us in the middle who mostly fly the 800-1000 mile average are the ones who can have some trouble with them. So I guess that I too am in favor of dumping all of that frou-frou, forget about segments and count the miles earned but make them irrelevant for status.

But for goodness sake, let us hope that does not prompt them to put in the current "Pay with Miles" system as the only way to redeem. That would be enough to throw me back into the arms of Doug Parker who probably would not think it wise to do that sort of thing at AA at least for the first few years after he takes over.

NapaPatTours Jun 7, 2013 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by zgscl (Post 20885575)
If they are going the MQD route I almost wish they would dump MQMs and MQSs and just have a straight forward revenue based system.

They created the mess by introducing Rollover. This inflated the ranks at all levels above Silver. An easier (and less damaging to their goodwill) solution would have been to simply roll back Rollover. This would force people on the bubble back into flying more, and generate add'l rev., as opposed to the current situation where a Gold with 15k Rollover miles can fly only 40k, and retain status. If said Gold had to fly another 10k to retain status... Well, there's your increase in rev, without pi$$ing everyone off.

...but they'll never admit their mistake. They'd rather pile on the errors than correct the existing one.


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