The Official Medallion Qualification Update Thread
Jan 24, 2013, 12:11 pm
#1921
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Blue Ridge, GA
Posts: 5,509
“Rollover miles are paying off big time. Elites are significantly ahead of where they were last year excluding rollover.”
- Jeff Robertson VP, Delta SkyMiles (09/16/2010)
- Jeff Robertson VP, Delta SkyMiles (09/16/2010)
Jan 24, 2013, 12:18 pm
#1922
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
Jan 24, 2013, 12:30 pm
#1923
FlyerTalk Evangelist & Ambassador: China
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 17,421
Delta wants a JV with KE...if and when that happens, you will see MQM earnings go back up. Until then, KE will be treated just like another ST partner with codeshares. My sense (based on NO evidence) is that KE does not seem too keen to play; they are already the largest non-US-based carrier across the Pacific and perhaps they don't quite want to share....who knows?
In any case, NRT will not see further expansion as a hub. Most of the interport flights rarely make any money, and overall Japan as an O&D market is a declining one.
In any case, NRT will not see further expansion as a hub. Most of the interport flights rarely make any money, and overall Japan as an O&D market is a declining one.
Jan 24, 2013, 12:44 pm
#1924
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: MKE
Programs: DL-MM-Diamond HH-Diamond
Posts: 3,218
I for the most part don't have a problem with the new criteria, with the exception of the taxes being excluded. Only since it will require use to trust that DL will configure that correctly and it will not match my AMEX amount spent on DL which will force me to do my own worksheet.
I had a talk with a CSR today and they did say that for that issue it could be adjusted before the it is implemented due to the amount of work invovled and was told letters will help in this situation. So I do suggest to send a letter to ask that taxes be included, even if the dollars are bumped up a bit.
JMO.
I had a talk with a CSR today and they did say that for that issue it could be adjusted before the it is implemented due to the amount of work invovled and was told letters will help in this situation. So I do suggest to send a letter to ask that taxes be included, even if the dollars are bumped up a bit.
JMO.
Jan 24, 2013, 12:45 pm
#1925
Join Date: May 2005
Location: BTW/WAOC
Programs: QR Platinum, UA Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 265
I fly mostly for leisure (about 95%), averaging 5 cpm, and I am definitely not willing to pay more than 10 cpm for a coach fare. Even when I bought an A-fare ticket last year, it was still less than 10 cpm, even lower cpmqm. Not that I cannot afford it, but that is what constitutes value for me.
I am not really upset by this change, but based on the discussions here I found it somewhat illogical. If DL thinks that travellers like me is unprofitable, why do they want me to buy double amount of the unprofitable tickets to get the same benefits?
I am not really upset by this change, but based on the discussions here I found it somewhat illogical. If DL thinks that travellers like me is unprofitable, why do they want me to buy double amount of the unprofitable tickets to get the same benefits?
Jan 24, 2013, 1:01 pm
#1927
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Atlanta,GA
Programs: American AAdvantage ExecPlat, Former DL Skymiles Diamond (MM), Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 203
If nothing else, the fact that we now have 129 pages on this topic before the program even launches is a statement to how bloody confusing they've made it.
Just a gut feeling, but this has "fail" written all over it, at least in terms of customer satisfaction. (Confused customers are rarely happy customers)
Just a gut feeling, but this has "fail" written all over it, at least in terms of customer satisfaction. (Confused customers are rarely happy customers)
Jan 24, 2013, 1:04 pm
#1929
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
Anecdotal, yes. A number of Medallion members have posted that we fly Delta when it isn't the cheapest because of the benefits.
As for "route/time specific", that's meaningless. My decision is biased towards Delta for every route and time. Or do you mean that Delta is sometimes cheapest? Those cases are irrelevant; I'd fly Delta then anyway.
As for "route/time specific", that's meaningless. My decision is biased towards Delta for every route and time. Or do you mean that Delta is sometimes cheapest? Those cases are irrelevant; I'd fly Delta then anyway.
Jan 24, 2013, 1:11 pm
#1930
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
A restaurant is fundamentally different from an airline though in many ways.
1)Airlines-your competitors are literally right beside you (at least in YVR terminal M, in HKG they aren't too far apart in terms of terminal area/check in either.)
For a restaurant that isn't true as the next restaurant might be a few blocks away, less convenient, and they may not serve the same type of food, while all airlines offer the same product, transportation and a FFP if applicable.
2) You have the option to eat at home if you don't like the restaurant. Try canoeing yourself across the Pacific with little to no food reserves in a timely manner.
1)Airlines-your competitors are literally right beside you (at least in YVR terminal M, in HKG they aren't too far apart in terms of terminal area/check in either.)
For a restaurant that isn't true as the next restaurant might be a few blocks away, less convenient, and they may not serve the same type of food, while all airlines offer the same product, transportation and a FFP if applicable.
2) You have the option to eat at home if you don't like the restaurant. Try canoeing yourself across the Pacific with little to no food reserves in a timely manner.
Jan 24, 2013, 1:11 pm
#1931
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Programs: DL DM 1.929MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, IHG Platinum, Avis CHM, Marriott Titanium (lifetime gold)
Posts: 7,859
The main topic has been thoroughly beaten to death. Dead horses are treated more humanely. And the usual suspects have run out of anything original to say, and are now repeating the same arguments and attacks ad nauseum. I feel bad for the trash in the SkyClub waiting on their flight to IST.
I will confess that the thread has become much more civil and manageable thanks to the ignore list.
David
I will confess that the thread has become much more civil and manageable thanks to the ignore list.
David
Jan 24, 2013, 1:16 pm
#1932
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
The main topic has been thoroughly beaten to death. Dead horses are treated more humanely. And the usual suspects have run out of anything original to say, and are now repeating the same arguments and attacks ad nauseum. I feel bad for the trash in the SkyClub waiting on their flight to IST.
I will confess that the thread has become much more civil and manageable thanks to the ignore list.
David
I will confess that the thread has become much more civil and manageable thanks to the ignore list.
David
Jan 24, 2013, 1:19 pm
#1933
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: PDX
Posts: 2,284
What credibility is that? The one they get by asking people who don't like the upcoming changes why they just don't leave, while at the same time having not left SkyMiles themselves when they didn't like the results from how the program has been set up for decades?
Jan 24, 2013, 1:38 pm
#1934
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LEX
Programs: Delta Reserve - PM
Posts: 1,143
Interesting...
"On Choice Seats
“When we rolled out Choice seats, we got killed [in the media]. But American rolled out the same program and there’s been nothing. Delta’s the only carrier not charging. Is it gaining us market share? At the same time, I hate them myself, so it’s tough. I do think seat assignments are the next horizon [for fees].”"
"On Choice Seats
“When we rolled out Choice seats, we got killed [in the media]. But American rolled out the same program and there’s been nothing. Delta’s the only carrier not charging. Is it gaining us market share? At the same time, I hate them myself, so it’s tough. I do think seat assignments are the next horizon [for fees].”"
Jan 24, 2013, 1:42 pm
#1935
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
Interesting...
"On Choice Seats
“When we rolled out Choice seats, we got killed [in the media]. But American rolled out the same program and there’s been nothing. Delta’s the only carrier not charging. Is it gaining us market share? At the same time, I hate them myself, so it’s tough. I do think seat assignments are the next horizon [for fees].”"
"On Choice Seats
“When we rolled out Choice seats, we got killed [in the media]. But American rolled out the same program and there’s been nothing. Delta’s the only carrier not charging. Is it gaining us market share? At the same time, I hate them myself, so it’s tough. I do think seat assignments are the next horizon [for fees].”"
Even without it I have a 2/3 chance of not getting a middle on a 77w.