mtkeller

That doesn't make sense. To my knowledge, CZ doesn't pull award inventory from a revenue fare bucket.

Kay_nyc

Has anyone else noticed that AM availability seems to have disappeared from delta.com? I've done dummy searches for tickets to Mexico a few times in the last few weeks, and AM flights never pop up like they used to.

benzemalyonnais

Just did a dummy MEX-CUN and AM popped up, as did JFK-MEX

Kay_nyc

Thank you. I guess availability has dried up more than I realized.

nittany987

Routing Pricing Question:

Will be in Paris, headed to Russia (ideally into LED, out of Moscow) and then onto Athens. Was playing around with DL.com to try to get a sense of pricing. Did CDG-LED, SVO-ATH which priced at out 90K in J, but then I realized that was just two one-ways. So my question is this...would the following price out at the standard round-trip level?

CDG-LED(stop)-SVO (Destination) + SVO-ATH

The distances are as follows:
CDG-LED: 1329
LED-SVO: 373
SVO-ATH: 1394

unflown, open-jaw (ATH-CDG): 1312
unflown, CDG-SVO: 1529

As I understand it, I can do a stop-over and an open jaw. The conditions for the open jaw are that it is shorter than the flown legs. I'm not sure if that means that A-C, A-B-C, or A-B AND B-C must all be shorter than the open-jaw.

I'd price it on Delta, but obviously can't lookup SU flights there.

Any thoughts?

Edit: Further searching has shown that only the component lengths should matter, so this should price out at 45k in Biz, assuming DL computer agree with gcmap distances.

mtkeller

The one potential issue would be that you might need AF or SU to publish a fare CDG-SVO routed via LED. Otherwise, the distances all appear to check out properly. If there's just MPM being considered for the CDG-LED-SVO portion, it should be OK.

UA Fan

So I am trying to see if I can do a COK-HNL flight with DL miles. I thought that searching on kayak will show me airlines that publish air fares on this route, but remember seeing somewhere that kayak can show constructed fares i.e. by adding to together various flights. Is this true? If so, is ITA the only way to find out published fares?

From ITA, it looks like KE has a fare, but uses UL to CMB and then on KE. So that option is not possible. If I change to BOM-HNL I get an all KE route. For the return I am planning to do HNL-DFW (stop)-BOM/COK.

Do the fare rules require KE to publish the return route also?
And I can cross two oceans?

michael_v

I will let others speak about routing rules, but my 2 cents is that it will be hard to get HNL-DFW(stop)-BOM/COK in 4 segments.

UA Fan

Is the 4 segment rule enforced? Also wouldn't the farthest distance be the destination - so in this case DFW?

michael_v

KE, KL, AF, AZ are all bookable online. Why don't you try it out with both DFW as stopover and destination and see what DL.com says? From the reports posted here, agents and their supervisors can do very little outside of what their computer says.

mtkeller

The four-segment per direction rule is strictly enforced by the computer. Occasionally if there's a schedule change where the only way to catch up with a partner flight is to take two segments in place of one, you can have them override things, but not at initial ticketing.

Definition of destination and stopover can be a bit tough to figure out with DL.

benzemalyonnais

I need to go to AMS next week, and want to take advantage of DL/VS availability in C to LHR instead of flying on the ski slopes from BOS nonstop.

LHR-AMS won't book

mnredfox

+1, I've never seen a case of >4 segments working as half the award.

kilton

Hello,

Can someone give a current status on booking AF flights with DL miles? What is the recommended search site/tool? Is there still an issue with faux classic award space on AF's site?

Thanks!

edh101985

Can this be possible? Atlanta to Sydney as a stop over. Then fly from Sydney to Tokyo on Vietnam airways for the main destination. Then fly home from Tokyo back to Atl.