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Using SkyMiles on SkyTeam & Other Partners: The Discussion Thread

Using SkyMiles on SkyTeam & Other Partners: The Discussion Thread

Old Mar 15, 13, 9:12 am
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Not sure if it was already discussed, but over at "Point me to the Plane" he mentions Hawaiian is starting a HNL-AKL route that will be 3x this spring/summer and 4x weekly in the fall. It'll be operated by their A330. It's not known for sure whether it will be bookable with DL miles, but if so it opens up another option to get to NZ. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/pointm...with-aa-or-dl/
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Old Mar 15, 13, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by gstork View Post
Because one-way awards cost the same as roundtrip, correct? (120K miles)

And if I book the return LAX/DPS early next year, I can take advantage of the return flight, and find another one-way home (similar to what I'm doing now).
Yes, costs the same. You are correct, if you want to use the return on a later date book that.
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Old Mar 15, 13, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by roknroll View Post
Not sure if it was already discussed, but over at "Point me to the Plane" he mentions Hawaiian is starting a HNL-AKL route that will be 3x this spring/summer and 4x weekly in the fall. It'll be operated by their A330. It's not known for sure whether it will be bookable with DL miles, but if so it opens up another option to get to NZ. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/pointm...with-aa-or-dl/
It never hurts to remind folks about HA and TN options to NZ, but indeed this is old news. I mentioned this flight back in September 2012 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19283784-post86.html
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Old Mar 17, 13, 1:21 pm
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Regarding OK (Czech Airlines), it looks like award availability may now be in ExpertFlyer. The catch is that you search under "Flight Availability" instead of "Awards & Upgrades;" if you search under Flight Availability, the Z & E classes (J & Y award, respectively) show up.
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Old Mar 17, 13, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by VladQ View Post
It never hurts to remind folks about HA and TN options to NZ, but indeed this is old news. I mentioned this flight back in September 2012 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19283784-post86.html
Do you know if it will indeed be bookable with DL miles, since not al HA flights are?
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Old Mar 17, 13, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by roknroll View Post
Do you know if it will indeed be bookable with DL miles, since not al HA flights are?
I assume it is (same as HNL-SYD and HNL-PPT, see more here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20012770-post67.html), but I never tested this option as I prefer the option of LAX-PPT-AKL on TN. Apparently, TN would have a completely remod Business class cabin on their 343s in the second half of the year.
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Old Mar 18, 13, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by LoganFlyer View Post
Regarding OK (Czech Airlines), it looks like award availability may now be in ExpertFlyer. The catch is that you search under "Flight Availability" instead of "Awards & Upgrades;" if you search under Flight Availability, the Z & E classes (J & Y award, respectively) show up.
OK Award availability has always been in ExpertFlyer under the Award & Upgrade search:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Awards & Upgrades Search
Departing MXP on 05/18/13 12:00 AM for PRG
Flying OK   on booking class Z E       
Direct/Non-Stop Only


                                                                     Frequency                                                    
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Class Description        Code  Seats
0 Connections
OK 719        0      MXP                PRG                319       T,Sa            Business - Award         Z     3
                     05/18/13 9:15 AM   05/18/13 10:45 AM            96% / 8m        Economy - Award          E     9


0 Connections
OK 721        0      MXP                PRG                32S       T,W,Th,Sa       Business - Award         Z     2
                     05/18/13 2:30 PM   05/18/13 4:00 PM             100% / 1m       Economy - Award          E     2
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Old Apr 9, 13, 1:19 pm
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booked a China-Europe Round trip ticket in Economy for GF
First called in North America Center, could not pull up the availability from mu for CTU-PVG but got down the international segment, pvg-cdg(<24 hr layover)-dus, cgn-ams(12 hr layover)-ctu. The agent priced it out as 160kmiles, asked to hold and hung up.
called in to Singapore center, the agent was able to see the availability for MU but not on the desired flight time. The trip however priced out correctly as 80k although ctu-pvg segment was not included.
Called in to MU for availability on award flights from ctu-pvg on that day, got down the flight numbers that show avaibility.
called back into Singapore center, add the segment but was told the agent messed up the first and last name so had to reissue a ticket.
Eventually, the trip is CTU-PVG(18 hr layover)-CDG(20 hr layover)-DUS
CGN-AMS(12hr layover)-CTU. 80k miles + 222 sgd dollars in tax
The domestic china segment is on MU, outbound flights are on AF, inbound flights are on KL.
The entire phone-in time took me approx 2 hours.
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Old Apr 10, 13, 6:43 am
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Just tried to book a CDG - PRG flight on Czech (OK). Airfrance.us shows several OK flights available but the Delta agent couldn't find any. She did put me on hold for a while to see if she could get the Czech flights but after a while I was suddenly transferred to the survey. Does AF have different availability for Czech flights than Delta?

I will try calling again and post my experience.
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Old Apr 10, 13, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by piyush View Post
Just tried to book a CDG - PRG flight on Czech (OK). Airfrance.us shows several OK flights available but the Delta agent couldn't find any. She did put me on hold for a while to see if she could get the Czech flights but after a while I was suddenly transferred to the survey. Does AF have different availability for Czech flights than Delta?
What's the flight #/date?
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Old Apr 10, 13, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
What's the flight #/date?
OK759 on May 18th, 21st or 22nd. AF shows plenty of availability on that and several other OK flights but DL can't find any of them.

Thanks for your help!

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Old Apr 10, 13, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by piyush View Post
OK759 on May 18th, 21st or 22nd. AF shows plenty of availability on that and several other OK flights but DL can't find any of them.

Thanks for your help!
Those Award Seats are definitely available -- for tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.8/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:
CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
PRG  Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
SAT  18 May 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AF         1382    CDG   07:25     PRG   09:00              CS1  YX9
OK         759     CDG   09:45     PRG   11:30              CS+  YS0
AF         1982    CDG   13:25     PRG   15:00              CS1  YX9
OK         761     CDG   14:55     PRG   16:40              CS+  YS+
OK         767     CDG   20:20     PRG   22:00              CS+  YS+
[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.8/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
PRG  Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
SAT  18 May 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK/AF      4765    CDG   07:25     PRG   09:00     320      J4 C4 D4 I3 Z4 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A7 L4 X0 Q0 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E2
OK         759     CDG   09:45     PRG   11:30     320      J8 C8 D8 I5 Z7 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K7 T4 A0 L0 X0 Q0 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E0
OK/AF      4767    CDG   13:25     PRG   15:00     321      J4 C4 D4 I4 Z4 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A9 L9 X9 Q9 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E9
OK         761     CDG   14:55     PRG   16:40     320      J8 C8 D8 I5 Z7 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A9 L9 X9 Q9 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E8
OK         767     CDG   20:20     PRG   22:00     320      J8 C8 D7 I5 Z7 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A9 L9 X9 Q9 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E8
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Old Apr 13, 13, 5:06 am
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Thanks! I'll call them again and see if they can find the flight.
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Old Apr 17, 13, 7:51 am
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After a schedule change, I changed my DL award ticket last night with the help of a good SLC agent. I now have 5 DL and 2 KL flights in my reservation. Flights show ok on DL.com and SaudiAirlines.com, but on AF.us and KLM.com only 2 flights show from this reservation: one DL and one KL flight. I can change seats just fine for the Dl flights on DL.com. Note that this reservation contains a problematic intra-Europe KL flight that was "selling out", but the agent was able to push it through somehow. Should I be concerned about what AF.us/KLM.com display? I tried looking up by both DL PNR and ticket number and the end result is the same.
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Old Apr 17, 13, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by michael_v View Post
After a schedule change, I changed my DL award ticket last night with the help of a good SLC agent. I now have 5 DL and 2 KL flights in my reservation. Flights show ok on DL.com and SaudiAirlines.com, but on AF.us and KLM.com only 2 flights show from this reservation: one DL and one KL flight. I can change seats just fine for the Dl flights on DL.com. Note that this reservation contains a problematic intra-Europe KL flight that was "selling out", but the agent was able to push it through somehow. Should I be concerned about what AF.us/KLM.com display? I tried looking up by both DL PNR and ticket number and the end result is the same.
I'd be a bit worried that one of the KL flights doesn't show. It's not uncommon for AF/KL to not show all of the DL flights. Typically just the ones you connect to/from. For instance, an upcoming trip of mine is routed OMA-MSP-AMS-BUD with the first two segments on DL. KL only shows the MSP-AMS-BUD sectors. Similarly the return is BUD-AMS-IAD(stop)-ATL-OMA, and DL.dumb (despite this being on 006 stock) doesn't see BUD-AMS. However, the operating carrier should definitely show the flight. You might try tweeting @KLM to see if they can check what's up.
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