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davedeboston Jan 2, 2013 11:10 pm

Why again does this thread even exist? I'm pretty sure there's another website out there for this type of wild speculation. And it's just that, wild speculation...

simuflite Jan 3, 2013 3:41 am

I read it on the internet. It must be true! A Delta pilot told me.

Crazyhotelguy Jan 3, 2013 4:48 am


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 19964120)
So, there are some airlines using B737 door 2L to board - - - FROM THE REAR??? :confused:

Now that I think about it, I guess some airlines do board from the rear. I've dunnit on EasyJet, but, I'm sure that's not what we're talking about here, unless they board F from door 1L and Y from 2L waaaaaay in the back! That way, there's absolutely NO chance of Y kettles coming in contact with F pax! :D

At airports that do not have jetbridges, like BGI, I have boarded the 737 from the rear. With both door options avail, loading and unloading is a breeze.

I for one would like to see the A321 flying under the DL flag.

theYipster Jan 3, 2013 5:31 am


Originally Posted by cmd320 (Post 19964167)
While the A321 does have an L2 door, I don't believe it's usable for boarding with a bridge because it puts the bridge too close to the engine. Also on some A321s the L2 door is not a full size boarding door but rather an emergency exit.

It's too bad Airbus didn't take L2 boarding into account when designing the plane because its certainly preferable to L1, especially on such a long single-aisle aircraft.

If so that's disappointing. One of my favorite things about the 757 is 2L boarding, as indeed, FC gets its own private space.

DCAproducer Jan 3, 2013 5:50 am

This is totally an A.net thread. Even starts the same way.

On FT we just post the press release when Delta announces the purchase. ;)

a7800 Jan 3, 2013 6:26 am


Originally Posted by DCAproducer (Post 19965374)
This is totally an A.net thread. Even starts the same way.

On FT we just post the press release when Delta announces the purchase. ;)

Ya, there is never any speculation on the Delta Skymiles board. The "Skymiles Change Rumor?" thread is only 192 pages long. ;)

nystateofmind Jan 3, 2013 6:32 am

What happens on a.nut...

India Bravo Tango Lima

P.S. I find rants on the conspiracy against Clayton Osbon more appealling

bubbashow Jan 3, 2013 6:47 am


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 19964108)
Well, it enhances the changes of a PDB... relative, for example, to a MD-88, where the FAs are sometimes unwilling to elbow their way through the crowds to take orders.

:D

I personally think all airlines should adopt that giant over-the-wing-thingy boarding bridge that KL uses on the 744 in AMS....don't even let steerage enter in front of the wing. :D

ubw117 Jan 3, 2013 8:08 am

I have to be honest, I would hope not, Delta should stick with Boeing!

tmontemb Jan 3, 2013 8:12 am


Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy (Post 19965144)
At airports that do not have jetbridges, like BGI, I have boarded the 737 from the rear. With both door options avail, loading and unloading is a breeze.

I for one would like to see the A321 flying under the DL flag.

at KRP Norwegian/Jet Time do this. It's quite cool, especially walking out on the tarmac as it is the only plane there. Cimber Sterling folded so thats the only airline flying through right now!

DCAproducer Jan 3, 2013 10:21 am


Originally Posted by a7800 (Post 19965538)
Ya, there is never any speculation on the Delta Skymiles board. The "Skymiles Change Rumor?" thread is only 192 pages long. ;)

A thread which I started.. lol ;-)

us2 Jan 3, 2013 11:23 am

Off topic somewhat, but I've always thought Boeing made a huge mistake in killing the 757 program. It's as versatile an airplane as any around -- capable of transatlantic, long haul and short haul high density domestic and able to use airports like SNA and DCA. For a 30-year-old design, it's proven its worth. I never understood why Boeing didn't simply come up with a more fuel efficient 757NG with a bit of structural lightening using composites and upgrading the avionics to something along the lines of the 764.

And, yes, the left turn to F is a nice touch in the design...

CTJoyce Jan 3, 2013 11:57 am

Delta has 100 confirmed 739-ERs on the way and they start taking delivery this year. We also know that the NW A320s are hitting the end of there life which means that 68 Aircraft over the next 5 years or so need to be replaced. Now Delta could replace those aircraft with 739s for parts commonality, however that now means you have air crews and MX crews that now need to be retrained on the Boeing aircraft. So you now have to decide is it cheaper in the long run to take A319 / A320 crews and drop them into A321s and continue to have two different air frames worth of spares on hand, or do you take those crews off the line and spend the money to send them to the school house for 3 months?

We also know that in the Delta Pay scale there is a pay grade specifically for the 739 that fits between the 73G/8 and 752/753/763 brackets, and there have been multiple sources saying that there has been talk about adding the A321 to the 739 bracket suggesting that Delta is in fact ordering A321s.

Personally I would prefer an entire fleet of Sky interiored 739s over A321s but that's just me.

DeltaFan4Now Jan 3, 2013 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by ubw117 (Post 19966161)
I have to be honest, I would hope not, Delta should stick with Boeing!

^

Nugget_Oz Jan 3, 2013 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by us2 (Post 19967561)
Off topic somewhat, but I've always thought Boeing made a huge mistake in killing the 757 program. It's as versatile an airplane as any around -- capable of transatlantic, long haul and short haul high density domestic and able to use airports like SNA and DCA. For a 30-year-old design, it's proven its worth. I never understood why Boeing didn't simply come up with a more fuel efficient 757NG with a bit of structural lightening using composites and upgrading the avionics to something along the lines of the 764.

And, yes, the left turn to F is a nice touch in the design...

Keeping the 757 going was much more expensive that coming up with the 739. The 757 was going to be a whole separate line for a fairly limited capability (specific but limited) aircraft. No one was going to pay for the 764 upgrades on a 757 was the yield is just too low. If they had managed to get the tanker deal when it was first up for tender in the nineties (which they still might but its too late now for the 757, still hope for the 767) they may have thought of keeping the 757 going as is with some upgrade of the avionics. A new wing was going to just too much as the 757 wing was a special design already whereas the 764 was an adaption of the 777 to the 767.


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