Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 19653485)
DL doesn't lose on the $250 fare, that's a seat that would otherwise go empty.
DL is profitable at its current load factor. Imagine how profitable it would be if the paid load factor on some flights were 110% (and they didn't have to rebook anybody). |
I didn't say anything about selling the MQMs being (or not) a much better deal for Delta than selling actual, used, seats; of course it is. I merely pointed out that selling the seat is more profitable than not selling the seat.
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Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 19653485)
DL doesn't lose on the $250 fare, that's a seat that would otherwise go empty.
DL is profitable at its current load factor. Imagine how profitable it would be if the paid load factor on some flights were 110% (and they didn't have to rebook anybody). |
Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 19654019)
...selling the seat is more profitable than not selling the seat.
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 19654352)
Yes, and imagine how completely devalued the Medallion program and our banked RDM's (yes, it could get much worse than it is now) would be if DL allowed these virtual MR's. Further, how would DL know how many will no show and how much they can oversell?? It would completely throw their inventory management systems out of whack. Come on folks, it's just a plain bad idea.
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 19654352)
Yes, and imagine how completely devalued the Medallion program and our banked RDM's (yes, it could get much worse than it is now) would be if DL allowed these virtual MR's. Further, how would DL know how many will no show and how much they can oversell?? It would completely throw their inventory management systems out of whack. Come on folks, it's just a plain bad idea.
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Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 19654559)
DL could easily require advance notification that a purchase is a virtual MR, and just apply the RDMs and MQMs to the customer's account without allocating anything to the flights.
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Originally Posted by FlyDeltaJets87
(Post 19654454)
Actually according to an earlier post from MSPEconomist in this thread, this promo only gets you MQMs, not RDMs. So the miles are actually becoming less inflated through the allowing of virtual MRs than through actual MRs where RDMs are earned in addition to MQMs. Now you can argue the ranks are becoming inflated, but I argue that's not the case. Someone earning status through doing a real MR or a virtual MR ends with the same result: one more person among the ranks. Which route - real MR or virtual MR is better for that someone depends on the person and their circumstances. The latter route is most likely better for DL.
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Originally Posted by FlyDeltaJets87
(Post 19654454)
Someone earning status through doing a real MR or a virtual MR ends with the same result: one more person among the ranks. Which route - real MR or virtual MR is better for that someone depends on the person and their circumstances. The latter route is most likely better for DL.
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Originally Posted by fti
(Post 19654670)
Same result perhaps, but there certainly are far fewer people who will do a real MR vs. a virtual one. If DL (or any airline) opened the floodgates to do virtual MR's I think they would be shooting themselves in the foot. They cap any buy MQM's for a reason.
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...preferred.html Could you imagine if DL let you buy Diamond? (Aside from the Jet card) |
Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR
(Post 19651384)
At the end of the day the last 20 posts in this thread have given quite a few very valid points. I want a profitable airline. I totally understand DL selling MQMs direct, to Amex, Hertz, Hilton etc. I understand those who proudly have earned all their miles BIS. But don't forget many don't do MRs 100% for MQMs/status, there are quite a few on this board that actually really enjoy BIS miles i.e. FLYING. I am one of them. I still get a thrill when boarding an aircarft.
But I don't begrudge others the opportunity to buy their status or DL for selling it. It makes them a lot of money. Those who want status to be based on spend should applaud DL selling MQMs. |
Ultimately everyone buys their status in one way or another. Delta needs to maximize their profit and if that includes selling MQMs they should.
I appreciate any offers Delta chooses to make to those who care to partake. Thanks Delta! |
Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 19654653)
I was not referring to this promo, I was referring to the made up virtual MR idea where people presumably believe you should get both MQM's and RDM's. Virtual MR's would potentially be far, far cheaper to earn MQM's than the rate being charged in the current program.
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Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 19659717)
What "current program"?
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Originally Posted by goingnow
(Post 19655944)
Ultimately everyone buys their status in one way or another. Delta needs to maximize their profit and if that includes selling MQMs they should.
I appreciate any offers Delta chooses to make to those who care to partake. Thanks Delta! |
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