***NEW***Baggage rules January 2013 — Postponed
Oct 25, 2012, 7:51 pm
#46
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I'm really surprised this is only being officially acknowledged as policy now.
For the past several years my request to check luggage through to final destinations have been consistently declined.
These have all been outbound from St. Louis.
Examples are:
STL-Dubai, with separate ticket from Dubai to Beirut on Middle East Airlines; FT
STL-Nairobi, with separate ticket to Addis Ababa on Ethiopian;
Dubai was a severe PITA
For the past several years my request to check luggage through to final destinations have been consistently declined.
These have all been outbound from St. Louis.
Examples are:
STL-Dubai, with separate ticket from Dubai to Beirut on Middle East Airlines; FT
STL-Nairobi, with separate ticket to Addis Ababa on Ethiopian;
Dubai was a severe PITA
Oct 25, 2012, 8:16 pm
#47
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What?
In Feb, I need to do CMH-LIH and KOA-CMH. Was looking for an award ticket but couldn't do the Hawaii part on Delta. Just this week I booked an award on Delta roundtrip CMH-HNL. The Delta agent told me this week I could book a separate ticket on HA but have my bags checked all the way through.
If I understand this new policy, as of Jan 1, this won't be possible?
In Feb, I need to do CMH-LIH and KOA-CMH. Was looking for an award ticket but couldn't do the Hawaii part on Delta. Just this week I booked an award on Delta roundtrip CMH-HNL. The Delta agent told me this week I could book a separate ticket on HA but have my bags checked all the way through.
If I understand this new policy, as of Jan 1, this won't be possible?
Oct 25, 2012, 8:35 pm
#49
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Oct 25, 2012, 8:59 pm
#51
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I always check bags simply so I don't have to schlep them through security and around the airport but in this scenario I'll be packing lighter and bringing it onboard. Thanks Delta for another downgrade in service.
Oct 25, 2012, 9:32 pm
#52
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Basically it's about disclosing applicable baggage fees for the entire PNR at time of purchase. The DOT is taking a dim view of pax paying undisclosed bagage fees when they recheck bags later itinerary. In particular when there's an impedance mismatch between baggage allowances between airlines. The DOT is basically saying the Airline Tariff Publishing Company (ATPCO) has had the fees database since the beginning of 2012, it's time for the airlines and ticket-sellers to integrate the information into the sales process.
You can start looking at the airline's beef here and that will lead you to the various rules in question:
http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/Den...on%20Final.pdf
http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/Not...20Dec%2028.doc
Reading the rules and the guidance doesn't specifically explain why the carriers are expanding this to interlining of separate tickets. One would assume baggage fees would have been disclosed separately at time of sale and it would fall to the ticket seller (a corp TA or consolidator most likely) to comply with the rules.
At best it seems a bit punitive, worst it seems like yet another move to make people only buy directly from the airline. I think this is going to backfire on the airlines and they are going to end up with even more rules.
Oct 25, 2012, 9:40 pm
#53
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As pointed out in various other threads on this board, people stay away from posting in this forum because you are all a bunch of self-loathing whiners. 
How many of you on here will this actually effect? While it may effect some work travel (think I saw someone post about Venezuela, sorry my eyes glaze over when reading people's whiny posts), it can't possibly affect you every single time you fly. The majority of the complaints I saw were for one time trips (unless you visit the quaint coast of Italy or Hawaii more than twice a year).
Will it be a pain in the butt? Maybe. But think of it this way, there will be no more threads popping up here saying "Checked my bag on xxx airlines, arrived on zzz airlines. Who's responsible to getting my bag back?"
How many of you on here will this actually effect? While it may effect some work travel (think I saw someone post about Venezuela, sorry my eyes glaze over when reading people's whiny posts), it can't possibly affect you every single time you fly. The majority of the complaints I saw were for one time trips (unless you visit the quaint coast of Italy or Hawaii more than twice a year).
Will it be a pain in the butt? Maybe. But think of it this way, there will be no more threads popping up here saying "Checked my bag on xxx airlines, arrived on zzz airlines. Who's responsible to getting my bag back?"
Oct 25, 2012, 9:51 pm
#54
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Nope, won't reduce that in any meaningful way. There will still be interlining of bags on a single ticket, so flying OMA-DL-MSP-AF-CDG-KL-AMS all as a single ticket (maybe with DL flight numbers on the AF/KL-operated bits) will allow through checking with no problem under the new rules.
Oct 25, 2012, 10:59 pm
#55
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This will affect almost every single trip I make. Yes, let's let DL and others make it as difficult to transit as possible. Will we be required to load our own luggage on the plane, too?
Last month, I flew in on a late night flight from TPE. If I would have to check in luggage with the new airline, it's highly likely I would miss my connecting flight. So I'd be out a hotel, as well as lots of wasted time.
Last month, I flew in on a late night flight from TPE. If I would have to check in luggage with the new airline, it's highly likely I would miss my connecting flight. So I'd be out a hotel, as well as lots of wasted time.
As pointed out in various other threads on this board, people stay away from posting in this forum because you are all a bunch of self-loathing whiners.
How many of you on here will this actually effect? While it may effect some work travel (think I saw someone post about Venezuela, sorry my eyes glaze over when reading people's whiny posts), it can't possibly affect you every single time you fly. The majority of the complaints I saw were for one time trips (unless you visit the quaint coast of Italy or Hawaii more than twice a year).
Will it be a pain in the butt? Maybe. But think of it this way, there will be no more threads popping up here saying "Checked my bag on xxx airlines, arrived on zzz airlines. Who's responsible to getting my bag back?"
How many of you on here will this actually effect? While it may effect some work travel (think I saw someone post about Venezuela, sorry my eyes glaze over when reading people's whiny posts), it can't possibly affect you every single time you fly. The majority of the complaints I saw were for one time trips (unless you visit the quaint coast of Italy or Hawaii more than twice a year).
Will it be a pain in the butt? Maybe. But think of it this way, there will be no more threads popping up here saying "Checked my bag on xxx airlines, arrived on zzz airlines. Who's responsible to getting my bag back?"
Oct 26, 2012, 5:08 am
#57
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This will affect almost every single trip I make. Yes, let's let DL and others make it as difficult to transit as possible. Will we be required to load our own luggage on the plane, too?
Last month, I flew in on a late night flight from TPE. If I would have to check in luggage with the new airline, it's highly likely I would miss my connecting flight. So I'd be out a hotel, as well as lots of wasted time.
Last month, I flew in on a late night flight from TPE. If I would have to check in luggage with the new airline, it's highly likely I would miss my connecting flight. So I'd be out a hotel, as well as lots of wasted time.
Oct 26, 2012, 5:51 am
#58
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Previously, in cases where a passenger presented more than one ticket to a Delta airport agent at the origination point, Delta would offer to check the baggage from the origin on one Delta ticket to the final destination on the second ticket, collecting both Delta’s and the other airline’s fees.
Oct 26, 2012, 6:16 am
#59
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Oct 26, 2012, 6:47 am
#60
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Another "user friendly" policy. I always use (2) tickets when flying to Hawaii since DL.crap can't usually properly price a connection on HA, forcing me to buy a separate ticket on Hawaiian.
And as for those people saying HA already has this policy in place - that hasn't been the case the two trips I've taken to the islands this year. In July I flew out of LIH on HA and changed over to DL on a separate ticket and my baggage was checked all the way through. Same thing out of OGG in January.
And as for those people saying HA already has this policy in place - that hasn't been the case the two trips I've taken to the islands this year. In July I flew out of LIH on HA and changed over to DL on a separate ticket and my baggage was checked all the way through. Same thing out of OGG in January.