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2lazy2walk Oct 26, 2012 2:40 am


Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy (Post 19554498)
But was the Admirals club as jam packed as the SC's?

Not so much...there were plenty of free seats and it was fairly quiet (kids, phone talkers, etc).

2lazy2walk Oct 26, 2012 2:43 am


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 19555707)
Only one or two SCs (CVG and I've heard rumors of IND but never been there) are serving Woodford for free. The rest are Jim Beam, if it's even available, otherwise Jack.

Jim Beam is fine for my redneck palate, but I hate when the servers thing Jack is bourbon.

2lazy2walk Oct 26, 2012 2:48 am


Originally Posted by motytrah (Post 19555859)
I fly AA here and there, almost always paid J. I found the rules a bit more nuanced in terms of booze and internet. As Paid J I always received internet and drink certificates. I liked some AA clubs better than some of the DL clubs, in particular some of the converted PMNW clubs. Though I have a disdain for the AA's MIA clubs. Crowded, noisy, no really noisy, plus clearing customs in MIA is a real PITA.

And like DL, a lot of Caribean destinations are considered domestic F. No club, not all that much to differentiate from any other carrier. In true J to central and south america AA has a nicer soft product in my opinion. Hard product will depend on if you're talking narrow body or wide body. In particular if it's a DL route still running the 2x2x2 767s (ugh).

I have to put in a plug for Global Entry, here. It saved me a good hour and a half clearing immigration and customs in MIA. Granted, I didn't have any checked luggage, but it was a huge stress reducer. Getting through immigration with no line is worth the price in itself, but bypassing the 200 person customs line was icing on the cake. For $20 a year, I don't know why everyone doesn't have this...but I shouldn't be sharing the word, because if too many people get it, I'll have lines :)

2lazy2walk Oct 26, 2012 2:53 am


Originally Posted by FWAAA (Post 19556914)
Science can be expensive!

Too bad you didn't bother to ask anyone on the AA forum about the Admirals Club free alcohol policies (or look them up yourself on the interwebs) before you paid a $50 cover charge for the privilege of ordering a $12 boubon. Ouch. Had you asked before you "exprimented," someone would have warned you that the only free alcohol is the cheap stuff and that name brand drinks would cost you plenty.

Think about it for a minute though - do you really think AA would sell day passes to the lounge for a mere $50 if there was an unlimited open bar for that price?

I dunno, I think Delta sells day passes for $25 and their drinks are pretty good :)

Granted, I should have done more research on the Admiral's club, but it was a short-fused trip, so I decided to just dive in and experiment.

2lazy2walk Oct 26, 2012 3:04 am


Originally Posted by pbarnette (Post 19558586)
The OP was expecting (or hoping) that, for $50, they might offer a product comparable to what you can buy from DL for $50. I think that was the point, don't you?

That was kind of the point, but I was prepared to be pleasantly surprised or disappointed. Just reporting that it was on the disappointing side, paying the entry fee and then being charged and additional $12 for a drink I could get in a SC free (Woodford is okay, the stuff AA had for free that I'd never heard of was too scary to risk). $50 was an investment in a research mission, more or less, to compare a product I hadn't experienced. The restrooms were clean, which is why I hit the Sky Club half the time :)

javabytes Oct 26, 2012 4:00 am


Originally Posted by 2lazy2walk (Post 19567930)
Jim Beam is fine for my redneck palate, but I hate when the servers thing Jack is bourbon.

+1

Same for on the planes... need to specifically order Woodford and not "bourbon".

pbarnette Oct 26, 2012 4:13 am


Originally Posted by 2lazy2walk (Post 19567930)
Jim Beam is fine for my redneck palate, but I hate when the servers thing Jack is bourbon.

The distinction is a marketing distinction only. Jack Daniels meets every requirement to be called bourbon.

javabytes Oct 26, 2012 4:59 am


Originally Posted by pbarnette (Post 19568137)
The distinction is a marketing distinction only. Jack Daniels meets every requirement to be called bourbon.

Legally? Sure. Yet they insist it is not for marketing purposes.

For me, bourbon not made in Kentucky isn't bourbon.

peperoberto Oct 26, 2012 7:09 am


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 19555707)
Only one or two SCs (CVG and I've heard rumors of IND but never been there) are serving Woodford for free. The rest are Jim Beam, if it's even available, otherwise Jack.

SFO poured Woodford last time I was there... back in July

GRALISTAIR Oct 27, 2012 5:48 pm

I can assure you it is not a rumour about the IND Skyclub serving Woodford. They do without charge.

pkm1flyer Oct 27, 2012 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by pbarnette (Post 19568137)
The distinction is a marketing distinction only. Jack Daniels meets every requirement to be called bourbon.

In checking the FAQ's on Jack Daniel's website, they clearly state that Jack is not a Bourbon. I am not a fan of Jack Daniels as I prefer Woodford, Maker's or Jim Beam over Jack. Glad to see some SC's still serve Woodford and Beam.

As far as AA goes, I am a former AA EXP million miler and had to switch to DL when I moved to Florida several years ago. I resisted at first and tried to stay loyal to AA who at the time was still offering a very good FC product especially on TATL & TPAC routes. But AA didn't have enough flights in my market to make it worth the effort. After switching to DL and paying my dues to build up my status, I can agree with most on this thread that DL offers a much better experience overall including SC's over Admiral's Clubs.


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