Is FC the new coach?
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Is FC the new coach?
I've noticed a real decline is service over the years - 70's and 80's coach had better service than today's FC.
But I've also noticed a drop in advance purchase FC fares, sometimes only a couple hundred over coach. So is the next step starting add-ons in FC? Paying for better food, bulkhead seats, etc?
If all of the seats are sold in FC, that doesn't leave any for status travelers. I'm GM and the last time I flew coach I was 80 on the waitlist for 2 seats so the only way I can fly FC is to buy the ticket.
But I've also noticed a drop in advance purchase FC fares, sometimes only a couple hundred over coach. So is the next step starting add-ons in FC? Paying for better food, bulkhead seats, etc?
If all of the seats are sold in FC, that doesn't leave any for status travelers. I'm GM and the last time I flew coach I was 80 on the waitlist for 2 seats so the only way I can fly FC is to buy the ticket.
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You have a really good point here. I'm iffy on it. I like being able to go ahead and purchase a FC ticket at times when I'm afraid of not getting upgraded (trans-cons) and like how low the FC tickets have become. I also hate to not get upgraded on a K or Q ticket. I guess they want the extra money and that's ok.
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You have a really good point here. I'm iffy on it. I like being able to go ahead and purchase a FC ticket at times when I'm afraid of not getting upgraded (trans-cons) and like how low the FC tickets have become. I also hate to not get upgraded on a K or Q ticket. I guess they want the extra money and that's ok.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...onds-away.html
Posts more like this one here might have kept that thread open, no?
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No.
The quality of coach has declined, but FC is still better than coach was in the 70s.
In fact, the quality of IFC has improved (take a look at OZ F /SQ R)
The quality of coach has declined, but FC is still better than coach was in the 70s.
In fact, the quality of IFC has improved (take a look at OZ F /SQ R)
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I think all around its declined. Yes the amenities such as in flight entertainment and seating has improved in F, but everything else has declined some. My opinion is it has to do with the overall environment... Y has declined so drastically that it pulls down F along with it.
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We were on 757-300 yesterday LAS-ATL...24 FC seats. They were awful. The plane looked to be very old, so that was likely the cause for lack of comfort. The seat itself wasn't long enough, it felt like you could slide out at any moment, and that was without reclining.
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I think all around its declined. Yes the amenities such as in flight entertainment and seating has improved in F, but everything else has declined some. My opinion is it has to do with the overall environment... Y has declined so drastically that it pulls down F along with it.
The kettles are SLC though.
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Wow, this sure is a different tone than the one you set this morning with this thread....
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...onds-away.html
Posts more like this one here might have kept that thread open, no?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...onds-away.html
Posts more like this one here might have kept that thread open, no?
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I cannot believe that DL would possibly get so cheap that they'd charge for amenities in FC, but I guess nothing would surprise me anymore.
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Wow, this sure is a different tone than the one you set this morning with this thread....
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...onds-away.html
Posts more like this one here might have kept that thread open, no?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...onds-away.html
Posts more like this one here might have kept that thread open, no?
I never flew in the 70's and certainly never in FC in the 80's so I have no real reference point. However I enjoy FC in the 2010's - so no complaints from me.
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Before this thread gets too far along, a quick Google search turns up a Wall Street Journal article from the past year that shows that since 1995, average airfares adjusted for inflation have fallen 21%. Further, in 1980, the average fare adusted for inflation was just shy of $600 while today's average is around $340.
With that in mind, please continue the discussion about why the amenities of air travel today don't stack up to the 70s and 80s.
With that in mind, please continue the discussion about why the amenities of air travel today don't stack up to the 70s and 80s.
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I flew on one of those SRQ-ATL and somewhere else. Not sure if it was the same plane or they all are like this but the 1CD bulkhead had a big patch over a hole that looked like it could have been a monitor. It was in serious need of a make-over.
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On the last flight (LAS-JFK) there was a line at the FC bathroom from coach. I was in 1C and kept getting bumped for the line that was 3 deep. It used to be a big deal to not have anyone standing in the front, now it is just ignored.
I just accept it, flying is faster than driving, but my expectations are now lower.