MQM Valuation Based on Fare Paid Now Showing on Delta.com
Sep 5, 2012, 1:49 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 1:49 pm
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I would imagine the overwhelming majority of Kettle flyers aren't Amex holders. I don't think it has one thing to do with another. Kettles will buy the low fares and pay to talk to someone, pay to sit in an aisle, pay to check their bag, pay to board early, pay, pay, pay. Right now many silvers and golds will pay LUT fares which make the company very little money, and absorb all the benefits set aside for those that are contributing to the real revenue line.
We can go in circles for days about this. WN is already there - it is strictly revenue-based. They are all going there, my friend. It is just a matter of time.
We can go in circles for days about this. WN is already there - it is strictly revenue-based. They are all going there, my friend. It is just a matter of time.
And, you're wrong that LUT makes Delta very little money. Revenue is not only achieved by getting the limited business travelers to pay more for their seats. It is also achieved by full planes and squeezing the last dollar out of the cheap seats. Delta would charge more for those seats if it could. It NEEDS to fill the seats with LUT fares or the seats go empty, which is much worse for the bottom line. Delta often gets to charge a little more for those seats thanks to the loyalty of golds and silvers who will pay extra to stay on DAL versus Southwest/Airtran. Make these rumored changes and those seats will become LESS desirable to most flyers versus Southwest given SW's free bag policy.
You may be right that every airline is headed for solely revenue based rewards. If so, the low cost carriers will pick up market share because they are better positioned to win a war fought based solely on price. Delta is not a low cost carrier, nor will it ever be given its labor, hub, and other commitments that, even in bankruptcy, could not be unwound to the level of the low cost carriers.
Sep 5, 2012, 1:50 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by james318:19259620
Sep 5, 2012, 1:52 pm
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mbwmbw seems to also be a pretty big cost to Delta if he complains as much to them as he lets on on here.
Sep 5, 2012, 1:53 pm
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Perhaps someone already pointed this out, but AA is already doing this -- no 500 minimum miles, elite mileage accrual based upon fare class, etc. This was one of the MANY reasons why I switched from AA to DL as my principal carrier a couple years ago. Its the future for all of the carriers I suspect.
Sep 5, 2012, 1:55 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 1:58 pm
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So you're saying she's not beautiful? That's sort of mean and uncalled for isn't it? Everyone has at least one trait that makes him/her special.... even you!
Sep 5, 2012, 1:59 pm
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Exactly. That's why I was saying 30,000 would still be well worth it for Diamond.
Sep 5, 2012, 2:00 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 2:01 pm
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Just checked the flight I booked earlier and it seems that this is still showing quite the reduction:
The following table shows the approximate miles earned and Medallion Qualification Miles (MQMs) earned for the selected itinerary. Miles will be posted to your SkyMiles account upon completion of your flight.
Activity Type and Description Class of Service Paid Miles Earned Class of Service Bonus Total Miles MQMs Earned MQSs Earned
Delta 0019 London-Heathrow, United KingdomtoDetroit-Wayne County, MI K 1883 0 1883 941 1
Delta 5221 Detroit-Wayne County, MItoAsheville, NC K 235 0 235 117 1
Delta 5098 Asheville, NCtoAtlanta, GA L 82 0 82 41 1
Delta 1800 Atlanta, GAtoWashington-Dulles, DC L 266 0 266 133 1
Delta 3390 Washington-Reagan National, DCtoNew York-Kennedy, NY Q 106 0 106 53 1
Delta 0003 New York-Kennedy, NYtoLondon-Heathrow, United Kingdom Q 1726 0 1726 863 1
Miles and Medallion Qualification Miles are subject to change.
Elite bonus or promotional miles are not included.
Regards,
Team
Sep 5, 2012, 2:02 pm
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As to DL, it is their company, but we are their clients, and, like any clients, we expect a certain degree of honest dealing, which means disclosure. Not necessarily "fair" dealing -- of course theirs is one of self-interest -- but basic standards of fairness can still apply.
And, on that note, why would you blame us customers for doing exactly what DL does and demanding the most in exchange for our money? I don't believe we have a moral obligation to accept any corporate decision without umbrage.