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flyerCO Jun 3, 2019 5:07 am


Originally Posted by George84 (Post 31152916)

Don't see an issue, unless he was doing this for lengthy period of time. He's simply stretching his muscles.

jgers1j Jun 3, 2019 7:16 am

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2ffd618126.jpg
Dude, at least take your boots off.

TuxTom Jun 3, 2019 8:53 am


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 31163123)
I don't understand. There's still a tray between the glasses and the actual floor, right? Sure, it's psychologically weird, but the glasses should still be fine?

I mean, I don't put my mouth anywhere close to the bulkhead, but we all agree that feet on a bulkhead is gross? Yes, the tray is there but I don't believe the trays are solid on the bottom. Even if the glass doesn't come directly in contact with the floor, it certainly doesn't look good.

Zorak Jun 3, 2019 9:19 am


Originally Posted by TuxTom (Post 31165794)
I mean, I don't put my mouth anywhere close to the bulkhead, but we all agree that feet on a bulkhead is gross?

That puts the bottom of shoes/feet directly in contact with the bulkhead though, and is also about social norms (that granted everyone doesn't necessarily agree with, but...)



Originally Posted by TuxTom (Post 31165794)
Yes, the tray is there but I don't believe the trays are solid on the bottom. Even if the glass doesn't come directly in contact with the floor, it certainly doesn't look good.

Fair point, if the bottom of the tray is an open grid (like a drying rack or something) then I'd reconsider. If it's completely solid like a cafeteria or fast food restaurant tray then I have no issue with it.

I agree it looks weird either way, but in the latter case I don't think it's actually gross or anything.

Howste Jun 3, 2019 11:05 am


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 31163123)
I don't understand. There's still a tray between the glasses and the actual floor, right? Sure, it's psychologically weird, but the glasses should still be fine?

To me this looks like a violation of 4-903.11 of the FDA Food Code.

Storing 4-903.11 Equipment, Utensils, Linens, and Single-Service and Single-Use Articles.

(A)Except as specified in ¶ (D) of this section, cleaned EQUIPMENT and UTENSILS, laundered LINENS, and SINGLE-SERVICE and SINGLE-USE ARTICLES shall be stored:
(1) In a clean, dry location;
(2) Where they are not exposed to splash, dust, or other contamination; and
(3) At least 15 cm (6 inches) above the floor.

(B) Clean EQUIPMENT and UTENSILS shall be stored as specified under ¶ (A) of this section and shall be stored:
(1) In a self-draining position that allows air drying; and
(2) Covered or inverted.

(C) SINGLE-SERVICE and SINGLE-USE ARTICLES shall be stored as specified under ¶ (A) of this section and shall be kept in the original protective PACKAGE or stored by using other means that afford protection from contamination until used.

(D) Items that are kept in closed PACKAGES may be stored less than 15 cm (6 inches) above the floor on dollies, pallets, racks, and skids that are designed as specified under § 4-204.122.

flyerCO Jun 3, 2019 11:25 am


Originally Posted by TuxTom (Post 31165794)
I mean, I don't put my mouth anywhere close to the bulkhead, but we all agree that feet on a bulkhead is gross? Yes, the tray is there but I don't believe the trays are solid on the bottom. Even if the glass doesn't come directly in contact with the floor, it certainly doesn't look good.

No we don't all agree feet on a bulkhead is gross. A simple look through this thread will disprove that statement. This thread reads more as a foot fetish forum then anything. I've suggested it before, put a paywall up and charge for access to this thread.

I do get why some have an issue. However the way I look at it, your mouth and hands aren't going on the wall.

The Situation Jun 3, 2019 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by jgers1j (Post 31165527)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2ffd618126.jpg
Dude, at least take your boots off.

His legs probably cramped up since he is sitting in the awful 739 bulkhead seats.

TuxTom Jun 3, 2019 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 31166379)
No we don't all agree feet on a bulkhead is gross. A simple look through this thread will disprove that statement. This thread reads more as a foot fetish forum then anything. I've suggested it before, put a paywall up and charge for access to this thread.

I do get why some have an issue. However the way I look at it, your mouth and hands aren't going on the wall.

Not the best wording, but that's why I had a question mark at the end of my sentence. I generally find the feet on bulkhead shaming to be a bit overblown. It's more the feet on armrests, tray tables, lounge furniture etc... that I think is a problem.


Originally Posted by Howste (Post 31166291)
To me this looks like a violation of 4-903.11 of the FDA Food Code.

This is essentially what I was thinking when I saw it and when I posted the photo here. I'm not a health inspector and I haven't worked in a kitchen since a part time job in high school, but I figured there had to be some sort of regulation about this kind of stuff.

Howste Jun 3, 2019 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by TuxTom (Post 31166530)
This is essentially what I was thinking when I saw it and when I posted the photo here. I'm not a health inspector and I haven't worked in a kitchen since a part time job in high school, but I figured there had to be some sort of regulation about this kind of stuff.

I'm not a health inspector either. I'm a quality systems auditor that mostly audits aerospace and automotive manufacturing. Around 10 years ago I also got into medical device and food production for a while, but have since dropped them.

CMK10 Jun 6, 2019 3:38 pm

ATL B SC today

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/Fl...IMG_0989-L.jpg

I try to have a live and let live, if it's not bothering you don't worry about it, attitude towards other passengers but this baffled me. I don't understand how that could be comfortable and lying on the floor in the middle of the lounge is strange behavior.

defrosted Jun 6, 2019 4:13 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 31177579)
ATL B SC today

I try to have a live and let live, if it's not bothering you don't worry about it, attitude towards other passengers but this baffled me. I don't understand how that could be comfortable and lying on the floor in the middle of the lounge is strange behavior.

That AND dirty shoes resting where conventionally people's clean clothes would be. I mean just discourteous to the next person using that chair.

Zorak Jun 6, 2019 5:28 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 31177579)
I try to have a live and let live, if it's not bothering you don't worry about it, attitude towards other passengers but this baffled me. I don't understand how that could be comfortable and lying on the floor in the middle of the lounge is strange behavior.

I had a boss who had chronic back issues and would often spent part of the day working on his laptop while lying down on the couch. I forget if he ever laid down on the floor during a meeting.

That's different from in the middle of a SC with your feet up on the chair though.

NotHamSarnie Jun 6, 2019 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by defrosted (Post 31177697)
That AND dirty shoes resting where conventionally people's clean clothes would be. I mean just discourteous to the next person using that chair.

Plus he appears to be wearing a plastic bin liner?

dalehill Jun 7, 2019 8:47 am


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 31177579)
ATL B SC today

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/Fl...IMG_0989-L.jpg

I try to have a live and let live, if it's not bothering you don't worry about it, attitude towards other passengers but this baffled me. I don't understand how that could be comfortable and lying on the floor in the middle of the lounge is strange behavior.

This is as close approximation of the “90 90 position” as you can probably get in that space. The position is often recommended for low back pain. While I wouldn’t lie down on a filthy public carpet and I wouldn’t put my feet up on anyone's furniture, I have lain on my own carpet and put my feet up on a chair in just this position for just that reason.

rickg523 Jun 7, 2019 2:36 pm

Not sure this a Delta flight, but have you seen this:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/9234...e-feet-flight/

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