Skymiles Change Rumor?
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Just a curiosity point...
What prompts your obsession with "proving" that the SkyMiles program is not going to be changed?
You now seem to have settled into a pattern of periodically bumping old threads, which might otherwise fade from the collective FT memory, just to say (again and again) "It hasn't happened yet" and to make disparaging comments about a few target individuals.
This is hardly in keeping with the requests the MODS made a few months ago about improving the tone in the DL forum.
What prompts your obsession with "proving" that the SkyMiles program is not going to be changed?
You now seem to have settled into a pattern of periodically bumping old threads, which might otherwise fade from the collective FT memory, just to say (again and again) "It hasn't happened yet" and to make disparaging comments about a few target individuals.
This is hardly in keeping with the requests the MODS made a few months ago about improving the tone in the DL forum.
I was given the empirical flame, by you specifically (remember, I'm a cracker jack and a shill for Delta), for not buying into it from FTers with "sources" in the beginning of this thread. You said terrible things not only to and about me, but about Delta employees you don;t even know. I also was told by others that my head was in the sand, I'm a kool aid drinker, I needed Vaseline, etc. This was after me posting that I was told in very specific language from a Delta employee that would absolutely know, that this thread was hogwash. What was posted early on was project trash, one of several. When I mentioned that the guarantees grew stronger.
I would also add that there are a group of users here, you included, that are very critical of Delta and use any possible occasion to offer negative or sarcastic comments. This thread was a boon for this group of users, and now that it's not turning out as they had hoped, they want it to cease and be locked. That's just......yuck!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post18304484
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post18304343
Last edited by Deadtail; Dec 31, 2012 at 4:45 pm
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I was given the empirical flame for not buying into it from FTers with "sources" in the beginning of this thread. I was told my head was in the sand, I'm a kool aid drinker, I needed Vaseline, etc. This was after me posting that I was told in very specific language from a Delta employee that would absolutely know, that this thread was hogwash. What was posted early on was project trash, one of several. When I mentioned that the guarantees grew stronger. Now it's my turn.
Just a curiosity point...
What prompts your obsession with "proving" that the SkyMiles program is not going to be changed?
You now seem to have settled into a pattern of periodically bumping old threads, which might otherwise fade from the collective FT memory, just to say (again and again) "It hasn't happened yet" and to make disparaging comments about a few target individuals.
This is hardly in keeping with the requests the MODS made a few months ago about improving the tone in the DL forum. (emphasis added)
What prompts your obsession with "proving" that the SkyMiles program is not going to be changed?
You now seem to have settled into a pattern of periodically bumping old threads, which might otherwise fade from the collective FT memory, just to say (again and again) "It hasn't happened yet" and to make disparaging comments about a few target individuals.
This is hardly in keeping with the requests the MODS made a few months ago about improving the tone in the DL forum. (emphasis added)
This thread has not contained any substantive information for quite a long time. Rather, to echo StayingHomeIsBetter's comments, a particular poster has continued to publicly attack certain FT members for quite a while with no action from any of the moderators. I struggle to see how the last few pages contribute meaningfully to this forum or Flyertalk in general.
It is long overdue that this thread be locked and laid to rest. Perhaps if there is new information about any potential or actual changes to Delta Skymiles, then a new thread could be started.
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I lurk quite a bit on the DL forum but rarely sign in and post anymore, but after reading this thread off and on I want to comment.
This thread has not contained any substantive information for quite a long time. Rather, to echo StayingHomeIsBetter's comments, a particular poster has continued to publicly attack certain FT members for quite a while with no action from any of the moderators. I struggle to see how the last few pages contribute meaningfully to this forum or Flyertalk in general.
It is long overdue that this thread be locked and laid to rest. Perhaps if there is new information about any potential or actual changes to Delta Skymiles, then a new thread could be started.
This thread has not contained any substantive information for quite a long time. Rather, to echo StayingHomeIsBetter's comments, a particular poster has continued to publicly attack certain FT members for quite a while with no action from any of the moderators. I struggle to see how the last few pages contribute meaningfully to this forum or Flyertalk in general.
It is long overdue that this thread be locked and laid to rest. Perhaps if there is new information about any potential or actual changes to Delta Skymiles, then a new thread could be started.
Lastly, this thread is completely relevant. It's about Skymiles, including hints of changes on the horizon.
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I have not attacked a single person. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it attack. Myself and others were ridiculed when we didn't buy into the hoax. I don't recall anyone asking for a lock back then. I also don't think anyone is preventing the rumor starters from logging in and possible explaining how they came to the conclusion that changes were coming, something NOT ONE of them has done since the beginning of this thread.
Lastly, this thread is completely relevant. It's about Skymiles, including hints of changes on the horizon.
Lastly, this thread is completely relevant. It's about Skymiles, including hints of changes on the horizon.
Of course, I did not use the term "attack." I actually said you were making "disparaging comments."
Upon consideration of the following, I could have justifiably said you were "goading" certain individuals.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19818711
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19818570
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19775084
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19771753
Whatever term best fits, it still describes a behavior that does not have a particularly positive influence here.http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19818570
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19775084
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19771753
And, yes, I offer my share of criticism with respect to certain DL management practices. But, I generally (except in egregious situations) avoid commenting on rank and file employees, or the airline itself. Me taking issue with corporate leadership is a far cry from you trying to encite a verbal brawl in the mud with individual FT members.
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Yes, perhaps we all should be more careful in our use of terms.
Of course, I did not use the term "attack." I actually said you were making "disparaging comments."
Upon consideration of the following, I could have justifiably said you were "goading" certain individuals.
And, yes, I offer my share of criticism with respect to certain DL management practices. But, I generally (except in egregious situations) avoid commenting on rank and file employees, or the airline itself. Me taking issue with corporate leadership is a far cry from you trying to encite a verbal brawl in the mud with individual FT members.
Of course, I did not use the term "attack." I actually said you were making "disparaging comments."
Upon consideration of the following, I could have justifiably said you were "goading" certain individuals.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19818711
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19818570
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19775084
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19771753
Whatever term best fits, it still describes a behavior that does not have a particularly positive influence here.http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19818570
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19775084
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19771753
And, yes, I offer my share of criticism with respect to certain DL management practices. But, I generally (except in egregious situations) avoid commenting on rank and file employees, or the airline itself. Me taking issue with corporate leadership is a far cry from you trying to encite a verbal brawl in the mud with individual FT members.
Does this mean you don't think I'm distracting you so Delta can pick your pocket anymore?
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Edited to add (since I could not pass up the opportunity)... I don't recall getting into a fracas with you on this topic.
Last edited by StayingHomeIsBetter; Dec 31, 2012 at 5:30 pm
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One reason the Skymiles program is most likely not going to change into a $0.01/point program is AMEX.
Why? Because when DL AMEX card holders find out that they no longer accumulate Skymiles but merely "Skypoints" that are worth at most 1 cent, they will DUMP those high-annual-fee-cards like toxic waste: GOOD BYE AMEX.
Because even a simple cash back card at 2% would be better...than DL Skypoints AMEX.
I don't see that happen anytime soon.
Why? Because when DL AMEX card holders find out that they no longer accumulate Skymiles but merely "Skypoints" that are worth at most 1 cent, they will DUMP those high-annual-fee-cards like toxic waste: GOOD BYE AMEX.
Because even a simple cash back card at 2% would be better...than DL Skypoints AMEX.
I don't see that happen anytime soon.
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I hesitate to wade into this morass again, but I will repeat what I said earlier:
Somebody is lying to someone. Either a source is lying to DL or they are lying to someone on FT or someone on FT is lying to us. I don't like those odds.
This thread was stupid from the beginning. Nobody with knowledge of actual deliberations on major changes to SM would be blabbing on this thread or to anyone blabbing on this thread. End of story.
Somebody is lying to someone. Either a source is lying to DL or they are lying to someone on FT or someone on FT is lying to us. I don't like those odds.
This thread was stupid from the beginning. Nobody with knowledge of actual deliberations on major changes to SM would be blabbing on this thread or to anyone blabbing on this thread. End of story.
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I hesitate to wade into this morass again, but I will repeat what I said earlier:
Somebody is lying to someone. Either a source is lying to DL or they are lying to someone on FT or someone on FT is lying to us. I don't like those odds.
This thread was stupid from the beginning. Nobody with knowledge of actual deliberations on major changes to SM would be blabbing on this thread or to anyone blabbing on this thread. End of story.
Somebody is lying to someone. Either a source is lying to DL or they are lying to someone on FT or someone on FT is lying to us. I don't like those odds.
This thread was stupid from the beginning. Nobody with knowledge of actual deliberations on major changes to SM would be blabbing on this thread or to anyone blabbing on this thread. End of story.
However, here is a prime example of where DL management could have defused the whole situation by posting here: "Nope. This is not under consideration."
Granted, DL management cannot respond to every rumor posted here on FT.
But, wouldn't it seem reasonable that there is some threshold short of the nearly 3000 posts that this thread has accumulated, where it would be in DL's best interests to come in and tamp down the speculation?
As I recall, earlier in the thread it was DL's lack of response that helped fan the flames of conjecture and speculation.
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Entertaining yes. I say we get to page 325 (15 posts per page) minimum before any significant change is announced.
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More flame fanning!!!
Happy New Year, everyone!
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