“Do You Know Who I Am?”: The Definitive Thread of DYKWIA Stories
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A DM boarding with FC takes all of 5 seconds to walk past FC into Y. It’s not really about the waiting, is it? It’s the feeling of “I paid more and therefore I’m special and deserve to be treated better than everyone else.” And, hey, maybe that’s true. But getting bent out of shape about others interrupting your rare air shows a sense of entitlement that is DYKWIA-ish.
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I am mostly short haul domestic. DM and get upgraded maybe 40 percent. Pay for first class or D1 on transcon or TATL. Having said that when I pay….I don’t want to wait on jetway with other of my DM friends when first class or D1 boards. When I don’t pay….happy to hang back and wait my turn. You should get what you pay for…..not entitled…..just get what you pay for
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Sounds like a frivolous waste of money to me. If one is looking for a "special experience" flying FC on ANY airline, including DL, they are looking in the wrong place. All of this debate of when Diamonds board is silly. I'm DM and just consistently board whenever I want.. Actually my preferred boarding order is to be the absolute LAST person on the plane. I board, someone takes my bag because they are in a rush to depart on time (if I can't stow it myself..), they shut the door and we leave. No parade of idiots coming by my seat for 30 minutes bumping my knees and breathing on me either. And I am on the plane a good half hour less time than all those people who HAVE to board first in line. Now THAT IS special and and exclusive!! 😉
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A DM boarding with FC takes all of 5 seconds to walk past FC into Y. It’s not really about the waiting, is it? It’s the feeling of “I paid more and therefore I’m special and deserve to be treated better than everyone else.” And, hey, maybe that’s true. But getting bent out of shape about others interrupting your rare air shows a sense of entitlement that is DYKWIA-ish.
And also again: who's the bigger DYKWIA: the FC pax who is boarding in the proper boarding group and expecting to do so with others in the proper boarding group, or the DM who ignores the boarding order?
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Think of it this way: people who overpay to sit in FC make airline travel affordable to those who cannot afford it.
in general, the cost of Main cabin tickets doesn’t yield any profit to the airline (unless passengers pay for baggage / ticket change, etc). At the same time, the economy class passengers justify the costs of operating that many flights, out of which the overpaying first class passengers select scheduling convenient for them.
It is similar to multi-player online games where the non-paying customers create a bigger community, and those paying from extra features make the business profitable.
in general, the cost of Main cabin tickets doesn’t yield any profit to the airline (unless passengers pay for baggage / ticket change, etc). At the same time, the economy class passengers justify the costs of operating that many flights, out of which the overpaying first class passengers select scheduling convenient for them.
It is similar to multi-player online games where the non-paying customers create a bigger community, and those paying from extra features make the business profitable.
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A DM boarding with FC takes all of 5 seconds to walk past FC into Y. It’s not really about the waiting, is it? It’s the feeling of “I paid more and therefore I’m special and deserve to be treated better than everyone else.” And, hey, maybe that’s true. But getting bent out of shape about others interrupting your rare air shows a sense of entitlement that is DYKWIA-ish.
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Again: Delta thought it enough of a concern (for whatever reason - this one or something else) that they changed the boarding order.
And also again: who's the bigger DYKWIA: the FC pax who is boarding in the proper boarding group and expecting to do so with others in the proper boarding group, or the DM who ignores the boarding order?
And also again: who's the bigger DYKWIA: the FC pax who is boarding in the proper boarding group and expecting to do so with others in the proper boarding group, or the DM who ignores the boarding order?
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You don’t wait in line? What if another F passenger is in front of you? You shove them out of the way?
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I'm starting over a decade late and am trying to read through this epic thread in order. I'm only up to page 128 of 678, so I have a long way to go. That said, I've already seen plenty of similar fodder of DYKWIA anecdotes about people crowding the boarding area/boarding out of order. It seems like a fairly typical issue for this thread.
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Reading these last few pages of when DMs board vs F passengers reminded me of a mini DYKWIA that I encountered last month.
My spouse and I flew AA for the first time in years, so admittedly wasn't too familiar with their boarding groups. We were in F, so had group 1. I noticed they tended to offer pre-boarding first, then lumped "military, group 1, and group 2" all together in the next announcement. These seemed to be the most common on almost every AA flight we had on the trip. Boarding our last flight, DFW-ANC, they announced it as such. We started moving with the crowd of people in those groups and a guy and his presumably wife abruptly moved in front of my husband and I. My husband remarked "Wow, this many people in groups 1 and 2? And I thought it got crowded boarding Delta." The guy who had cut in line turns around and said "Oh and military too. Which you guys obviously aren't. We go first." It took all I could do to hold my tongue. I'm appreciative of anyone who serves but I'm over the entitlement. I let it go. He was promptly asked to step aside when he could not readily produce his military ID at the scanner and we breezed past him. About 10 minutes later they passed us in F on their way back to Y.
My spouse and I flew AA for the first time in years, so admittedly wasn't too familiar with their boarding groups. We were in F, so had group 1. I noticed they tended to offer pre-boarding first, then lumped "military, group 1, and group 2" all together in the next announcement. These seemed to be the most common on almost every AA flight we had on the trip. Boarding our last flight, DFW-ANC, they announced it as such. We started moving with the crowd of people in those groups and a guy and his presumably wife abruptly moved in front of my husband and I. My husband remarked "Wow, this many people in groups 1 and 2? And I thought it got crowded boarding Delta." The guy who had cut in line turns around and said "Oh and military too. Which you guys obviously aren't. We go first." It took all I could do to hold my tongue. I'm appreciative of anyone who serves but I'm over the entitlement. I let it go. He was promptly asked to step aside when he could not readily produce his military ID at the scanner and we breezed past him. About 10 minutes later they passed us in F on their way back to Y.
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Reading these last few pages of when DMs board vs F passengers reminded me of a mini DYKWIA that I encountered last month.
My spouse and I flew AA for the first time in years, so admittedly wasn't too familiar with their boarding groups. We were in F, so had group 1. I noticed they tended to offer pre-boarding first, then lumped "military, group 1, and group 2" all together in the next announcement. These seemed to be the most common on almost every AA flight we had on the trip. Boarding our last flight, DFW-ANC, they announced it as such. We started moving with the crowd of people in those groups and a guy and his presumably wife abruptly moved in front of my husband and I. My husband remarked "Wow, this many people in groups 1 and 2? And I thought it got crowded boarding Delta." The guy who had cut in line turns around and said "Oh and military too. Which you guys obviously aren't. We go first." It took all I could do to hold my tongue. I'm appreciative of anyone who serves but I'm over the entitlement. I let it go. He was promptly asked to step aside when he could not readily produce his military ID at the scanner and we breezed past him. About 10 minutes later they passed us in F on their way back to Y.
My spouse and I flew AA for the first time in years, so admittedly wasn't too familiar with their boarding groups. We were in F, so had group 1. I noticed they tended to offer pre-boarding first, then lumped "military, group 1, and group 2" all together in the next announcement. These seemed to be the most common on almost every AA flight we had on the trip. Boarding our last flight, DFW-ANC, they announced it as such. We started moving with the crowd of people in those groups and a guy and his presumably wife abruptly moved in front of my husband and I. My husband remarked "Wow, this many people in groups 1 and 2? And I thought it got crowded boarding Delta." The guy who had cut in line turns around and said "Oh and military too. Which you guys obviously aren't. We go first." It took all I could do to hold my tongue. I'm appreciative of anyone who serves but I'm over the entitlement. I let it go. He was promptly asked to step aside when he could not readily produce his military ID at the scanner and we breezed past him. About 10 minutes later they passed us in F on their way back to Y.
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You keep inserting me into this scenario. Why do you keep doing that? It's equally, if not more, likely that I'm one of the non-FC DMs in this scenario, since I'm less likely to get an upgrade to FC on the shuttle flights that have so many DMs.
I'm describing a scenario; you're turning it into an ad hominem.
I'm describing a scenario; you're turning it into an ad hominem.
ok, fine... how would a DM boarding with FC prevent THEM from getting PDBs?
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I commented on the order and timing of the boarding process. Not sure how you inferred that I said anything about FC not getting PDBs because of DMs boarding with FC.