“Do You Know Who I Am?”: The Definitive Thread of DYKWIA Stories
Sep 15, 2013, 3:55 pm
#2536
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It was DYKWIA day at the LAX SC yesterday. I arrived as one Mr. DYKWIA was berating Corinne because he spent over a thousand dollars on his ticket and wasn't entitled to use the lounge, and he wouldn't treat his customers that spent thousands of dollars with such a poor level of service. Once inside, an unusually large number of lawyers were there from both Australia and the US. It was "$30 million" this and $46 million" that. I walked over to the Board Room in T6 to find some peace.
Sep 15, 2013, 4:01 pm
#2537
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It was DYKWIA day at the LAX SC yesterday. I arrived as one Mr. DYKWIA was berating Corinne because he spent over a thousand dollars on his ticket and wasn't entitled to use the lounge, and he wouldn't treat his customers that spent thousands of dollars with such a poor level of service. Once inside, an unusually large number of lawyers were there from both Australia and the US. It was "$30 million" this and $46 million" that. I walked over to the Board Room in T6 to find some peace.
How'd you know they were lawyers? Humor me.
Sep 15, 2013, 4:05 pm
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One group at the bar was loudly proclaiming this fact. Another group seated nearer to me were discussing their cases.
Sep 15, 2013, 4:27 pm
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"Henry, don't they KNOW we're on our way to our 40th Anniversary cruise on the Seabourn Odyssey that's costing us $50,000? And if we don't get off the plane first we might not get on the shuttle first and get our pick of seats up front and then we might not get off the shuttle first and then we won't be at the front of the line to get on the ship and then our anniversary will be RUINED. RUINED, I say!!!!"
"Helen, shut up, you insufferable and miserable cow. I only told you we were flying first class to get the Seabourn to get you out of the house in a temporary and oh, so rare good mood. Everything I own is being packed up as we speak, I'm moving in with Sylvia the maid, your seat on this plane is row 38E, and I'm turning around to leave the airport right now because it's worth missing a $50,000 cruise to get you out of my life."
"Helen, shut up, you insufferable and miserable cow. I only told you we were flying first class to get the Seabourn to get you out of the house in a temporary and oh, so rare good mood. Everything I own is being packed up as we speak, I'm moving in with Sylvia the maid, your seat on this plane is row 38E, and I'm turning around to leave the airport right now because it's worth missing a $50,000 cruise to get you out of my life."
Sep 15, 2013, 5:24 pm
#2540
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"Henry, don't they KNOW we're on our way to our 40th Anniversary cruise on the Seabourn Odyssey that's costing us $50,000? And if we don't get off the plane first we might not get on the shuttle first and get our pick of seats up front and then we might not get off the shuttle first and then we won't be at the front of the line to get on the ship and then our anniversary will be RUINED. RUINED, I say!!!!"
"Helen, shut up, you insufferable and miserable cow. I only told you we were flying first class to get the Seabourn to get you out of the house in a temporary and oh, so rare good mood. Everything I own is being packed up as we speak, I'm moving in with Sylvia the maid, your seat on this plane is row 38E, and I'm turning around to leave the airport right now because it's worth missing a $50,000 cruise to get you out of my life."
"Helen, shut up, you insufferable and miserable cow. I only told you we were flying first class to get the Seabourn to get you out of the house in a temporary and oh, so rare good mood. Everything I own is being packed up as we speak, I'm moving in with Sylvia the maid, your seat on this plane is row 38E, and I'm turning around to leave the airport right now because it's worth missing a $50,000 cruise to get you out of my life."
Sep 15, 2013, 5:45 pm
#2541
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Do any of the other airlines include lounge access with a first-class ticket? Wonder what would make a business traveler expect this. Important enough to warrant a first-class seat from employer, privy enough to get there early and visit a club, but clueless of the rules.
Sep 15, 2013, 5:55 pm
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Do any of the other airlines include lounge access with a first-class ticket? Wonder what would make a business traveler expect this. Important enough to warrant a first-class seat from employer, privy enough to get there early and visit a club, but clueless of the rules.
Sep 15, 2013, 6:04 pm
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Same for DL - domestic routes with BusinessElite service do offer lounge access for pax up front, as do certain other transcons. JFK to LAX, SFO, SEA, LAS, DEN, SAN, PDX, and PHX. DL also allows full Y pax in on those routes too.
Sep 15, 2013, 6:53 pm
#2544
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So very likely this guy has gotten into SkyClubs for free with a DL boarding pass a few of times prior, only this time his flight class or destination didn't qualify for the free access?
Sep 15, 2013, 7:26 pm
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Do any of the other airlines include lounge access with a first-class ticket? Wonder what would make a business traveler expect this. Important enough to warrant a first-class seat from employer, privy enough to get there early and visit a club, but clueless of the rules.
None of the "traditional" airlines, US, UA, DL, or AA give club access on just a domestic first class ticket with the narrow exception of certain transcontinental routes which are marketed as a (semi) "business-class" product. The exception routes for DL are JFK-LAX or SFO nonstop.
(plus the ones that Javabytes mentions in the post just above)
Last edited by Bowgie; Sep 15, 2013 at 7:29 pm Reason: Javabytes lists recent DL additions for louge access
Sep 15, 2013, 7:37 pm
#2546
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...I was 2 of 15 on upgrade list with one seat left in F. I accepted my fate and as we were getting ready to board, the person in the first slot suddenly became second. This wasn't taken very well as the entire gate heard about his traveling endeavors and how he had a tie breaker over other flyers and reset the list. The FA of course asks for the new number 1 to approach for the upgrade...
Sep 15, 2013, 7:44 pm
#2547
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This is not to support the behavior in any way, so put down your flame throwers.
I can understand why people want to get on as early in the process as they can. We have all been on flights recently where a few or even many PAX are made to check their bags because the OH is full. I am a DM and frequently get upgraded. I have, however, been delayed on the previous flight and got to the gate just as the last few bins were about to be filled. It is not a good feeling to face the prospect of getting your bag taken away and checked. Do I need to list all the bad things that can happen after that? Probably not. D.E.L.T.A. is an abbreviation for Don't Expect the Luggage To Arrive.
As I said, this is not to support the behavior in any way. All I am asking is let's be a little more empathetic with other PAX as they too struggle to get from Point A to Point B.
I can understand why people want to get on as early in the process as they can. We have all been on flights recently where a few or even many PAX are made to check their bags because the OH is full. I am a DM and frequently get upgraded. I have, however, been delayed on the previous flight and got to the gate just as the last few bins were about to be filled. It is not a good feeling to face the prospect of getting your bag taken away and checked. Do I need to list all the bad things that can happen after that? Probably not. D.E.L.T.A. is an abbreviation for Don't Expect the Luggage To Arrive.
As I said, this is not to support the behavior in any way. All I am asking is let's be a little more empathetic with other PAX as they too struggle to get from Point A to Point B.
Sep 15, 2013, 7:59 pm
#2548
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This is not to support the behavior in any way, so put down your flame throwers.
I can understand why people want to get on as early in the process as they can. We have all been on flights recently where a few or even many PAX are made to check their bags because the OH is full. I am a DM and frequently get upgraded. I have, however, been delayed on the previous flight and got to the gate just as the last few bins were about to be filled. It is not a good feeling to face the prospect of getting your bag taken away and checked. Do I need to list all the bad things that can happen after that? Probably not. D.E.L.T.A. is an abbreviation for Don't Expect the Luggage To Arrive.
As I said, this is not to support the behavior in any way. All I am asking is let's be a little more empathetic with other PAX as they too struggle to get from Point A to Point B.
I can understand why people want to get on as early in the process as they can. We have all been on flights recently where a few or even many PAX are made to check their bags because the OH is full. I am a DM and frequently get upgraded. I have, however, been delayed on the previous flight and got to the gate just as the last few bins were about to be filled. It is not a good feeling to face the prospect of getting your bag taken away and checked. Do I need to list all the bad things that can happen after that? Probably not. D.E.L.T.A. is an abbreviation for Don't Expect the Luggage To Arrive.
As I said, this is not to support the behavior in any way. All I am asking is let's be a little more empathetic with other PAX as they too struggle to get from Point A to Point B.
I don't begrudge them for "wanting" to board before they should, but I do have an issue with them doing so in opposition to the established rules.
Sep 15, 2013, 11:42 pm
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I wish all GA would do this. I have sometimes First Class, Zone SKY and Zone PREM on my tickets. When they call our section I notice that people who have Zone 2 try to attempt to board with us. The GA states no it's not your turn to board, They try to sneak on.
People are so inpatient.
People are so inpatient.
Sep 15, 2013, 11:47 pm
#2550
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Do any of the other airlines include lounge access with a first-class ticket? Wonder what would make a business traveler expect this. Important enough to warrant a first-class seat from employer, privy enough to get there early and visit a club, but clueless of the rules.