The Definitive "Delta - TSA Pre-Check" thread
Oct 24, 2013, 2:08 pm
#2281
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the precheck line at MCO this afternoon was the longest that i have ever seen, which means that it had at least a dozen people in it
i did observe, however, that about half of them were elderly and not only didn't seem to know what precheck was, but seemed unfamiliar with airport security in general
so, it does look like some non frequent fliers are getting routed into the precheck line, but this afternoon that did not result in any kind of traffic jam or delay
i did observe, however, that about half of them were elderly and not only didn't seem to know what precheck was, but seemed unfamiliar with airport security in general
so, it does look like some non frequent fliers are getting routed into the precheck line, but this afternoon that did not result in any kind of traffic jam or delay
Oct 24, 2013, 2:22 pm
#2282
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the precheck line at MCO this afternoon was the longest that i have ever seen, which means that it had at least a dozen people in it
i did observe, however, that about half of them were elderly and not only didn't seem to know what precheck was, but seemed unfamiliar with airport security in general
so, it does look like some non frequent fliers are getting routed into the precheck line, but this afternoon that did not result in any kind of traffic jam or delay
i did observe, however, that about half of them were elderly and not only didn't seem to know what precheck was, but seemed unfamiliar with airport security in general
so, it does look like some non frequent fliers are getting routed into the precheck line, but this afternoon that did not result in any kind of traffic jam or delay
Anyone know when the new application process for PreCheck will be available on TSA website? All it says is Fall 2013...would love to apply once it is as I don't have nexus...
Oct 24, 2013, 3:03 pm
#2283
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ABTC -- assuming that's what you mean by APEC holders -- do rather frequently clear US passport control faster than even US citizen kiosk-users (GE-user or APC-users, whether considered jointly or separately).
For transits or arrivals at IAD, it's getting more routine on my trips that ABTC-using, non-NA APEC nationals get in faster than: (a) GE-using US citizens like myself at IAD; (b) GE and/or APC kiosk users at ORD or JFK.
Unfortunately, I doubt that the US is going to give US citizen ABTC users access to the ABTC lines whenever DHS stops dragging its feet and allows me to get it.
For transits or arrivals at IAD, it's getting more routine on my trips that ABTC-using, non-NA APEC nationals get in faster than: (a) GE-using US citizens like myself at IAD; (b) GE and/or APC kiosk users at ORD or JFK.
Unfortunately, I doubt that the US is going to give US citizen ABTC users access to the ABTC lines whenever DHS stops dragging its feet and allows me to get it.
Yes, that is what I mean.
(ABTC is the card, APEC is the scheme.)
Oct 25, 2013, 1:41 am
#2284
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the precheck line at MCO this afternoon was the longest that i have ever seen, which means that it had at least a dozen people in it
i did observe, however, that about half of them were elderly and not only didn't seem to know what precheck was, but seemed unfamiliar with airport security in general
so, it does look like some non frequent fliers are getting routed into the precheck line, but this afternoon that did not result in any kind of traffic jam or delay
i did observe, however, that about half of them were elderly and not only didn't seem to know what precheck was, but seemed unfamiliar with airport security in general
so, it does look like some non frequent fliers are getting routed into the precheck line, but this afternoon that did not result in any kind of traffic jam or delay
Oct 25, 2013, 3:16 am
#2285
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Bunch of old people yesterday in the PreCheck line at MSP. One of the TSA agent kept shouting out that it was all about speed and what people did NOT need to do. I added my own helpful positive reinforcement to those around me about how fast things used to be. BTW, it was my first International PreCheck. 
Oct 25, 2013, 4:15 am
#2287
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In deference to the TSA agents involved, I won't mention the city, but yesterday, I was behind a couple of these newbies in a PC line. The befuddled woman in front if me was holding up the line as she took off jewelry and dug in her suitcase. Ultimately, she pulled a half finished Diet Coke out of said suitcase, dropping it on the floor. Apparently, the cap wasn't tight and soda poured onto the floor.
At this point, the TSA agents started shaking their heads and openly discussing how wrong all of this is. The TSA agents, though, blame the airlines for pushing all of these people into the Pre-Check line. I chimed in, saying it was fun while it lasted, but PC as we knew it seems to be gone. The gentleman operating the bag x-ray said he had just been saying the same thing, and the other agents nodded, even the agent guarding the puddle of diet coke and the agent standing with the woman who now needed personal scanning, since she had failed twice in her attempt to get through the metal detector.
Despite this, I still made it through security faster than it would have taken to go through the regular line.
At this point, the TSA agents started shaking their heads and openly discussing how wrong all of this is. The TSA agents, though, blame the airlines for pushing all of these people into the Pre-Check line. I chimed in, saying it was fun while it lasted, but PC as we knew it seems to be gone. The gentleman operating the bag x-ray said he had just been saying the same thing, and the other agents nodded, even the agent guarding the puddle of diet coke and the agent standing with the woman who now needed personal scanning, since she had failed twice in her attempt to get through the metal detector.
Despite this, I still made it through security faster than it would have taken to go through the regular line.
Oct 25, 2013, 5:31 am
#2288
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Precheck is still running smooth a DTW lower level this morning. There is a person checking the passes and denying entry and sending people to the long line that don't have the banner on their boarding pass. Was a huge timesaver for me this morning, was through security in under two minutes and the the non tsa line was pretty long.
Oct 25, 2013, 6:33 am
#2289
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as i mentioned in ORD the other day the line was 50 deep, once i got up and got the 3 beep it took 20 seconds. One person cannot clear people fast enough into the precheck lane, or the person was slower and not able to keep up.
It was still quicker, but will have now add 15 min buffer for pre-check, where for awhile i knew it would be less than 5 min from BP through security.
It was still quicker, but will have now add 15 min buffer for pre-check, where for awhile i knew it would be less than 5 min from BP through security.
Oct 25, 2013, 6:59 am
#2290
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Just got this text from my sister who has no status with Delta and flies once a year:
"I always get the precheck lanes. Don't have to take off shoes, etc. Don't know why, but I like!"
"I always get the precheck lanes. Don't have to take off shoes, etc. Don't know why, but I like!"
Oct 25, 2013, 8:33 am
#2291
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That doesn't explain the non-US citizens I saw in the pre lane at JFK.
Oct 25, 2013, 8:34 am
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Oct 25, 2013, 10:47 am
#2293
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Got the same email from CLEAR. As you may have noticed, CLEAR's email makes it sound like this will be advantageous, but who knows? Per the email, "PreCheck eligible CLEARmembers can use the CLEARlane as usual to avoid the long lines. We'll scan your boarding pass and bring you to the PreCheck screening lane (if eligible for that flight) where you can keep your shoes and belt on, etc."
Anybody have any further information/thoughts on this new integration?
Anybody have any further information/thoughts on this new integration?
Oct 25, 2013, 11:29 am
#2294
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I haven't checked that email account, but that's weird. I mean, unless the PreCheck line is long, which I guess since they keep wanting to add more people, it could be, but if the line isn't long how does Clear help or save time?
I never use Clear (unless for some reason I don't have PreCheck, and that has yet to happen). Still, I don't see me renewing my membership next month.
I just read that the MCO Clear has moved to be closer to PreCheck which makes it like SFO where the two are adjacent. I still can't see $120-$180 worth of benefit for if/when I don't get PreCheck
I never use Clear (unless for some reason I don't have PreCheck, and that has yet to happen). Still, I don't see me renewing my membership next month.
I just read that the MCO Clear has moved to be closer to PreCheck which makes it like SFO where the two are adjacent. I still can't see $120-$180 worth of benefit for if/when I don't get PreCheck
Last edited by iamhereandthere; Oct 25, 2013 at 12:37 pm Reason: Correcting info.
