The Kettle Ham Sandwich
#1
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The Kettle Ham Sandwich
Took my last (DL) flights of 2011 today and it really hit me how much DL's target market has changed during "the year of the customer." A couple of items from today:
1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
3) ATL-B25 SkyClub was just teaming with Kettles! Someone in the corner was raving about her Groupon deal while my wife was unable to get a full glass of water from the bar ("we're out, would you like something from the premium bar?"). Then I saw the image that put everything unto focus for me: a businessman huddled in one of the small chairs (where the cubicles used to be) surrounded by 2 families with small, screaming children. He had on his Bose headphones, but he eventually gave up and left the club (could have been going to his flight though).
Today, I've realized that "the year of the customer" did not mean that it would be a year focused on customer satisfaction, but rather a year focused on changing who DL's customers are. The great transition from road warriors to Kettles, loyal frequent flyers to 1-flight-per-year AMEX holders is nearly complete. How will they go from 200M to 1B in ancillary revenues next year? The Kettle Ham Sandwich.
I hope (for DL's sake) they are investing in the right market segment...
1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
3) ATL-B25 SkyClub was just teaming with Kettles! Someone in the corner was raving about her Groupon deal while my wife was unable to get a full glass of water from the bar ("we're out, would you like something from the premium bar?"). Then I saw the image that put everything unto focus for me: a businessman huddled in one of the small chairs (where the cubicles used to be) surrounded by 2 families with small, screaming children. He had on his Bose headphones, but he eventually gave up and left the club (could have been going to his flight though).
Today, I've realized that "the year of the customer" did not mean that it would be a year focused on customer satisfaction, but rather a year focused on changing who DL's customers are. The great transition from road warriors to Kettles, loyal frequent flyers to 1-flight-per-year AMEX holders is nearly complete. How will they go from 200M to 1B in ancillary revenues next year? The Kettle Ham Sandwich.
I hope (for DL's sake) they are investing in the right market segment...
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Kettle Tuna?
Took my last (DL) flights of 2011 today and it really hit me how much DL's target market has changed during "the year of the customer." A couple of items from today:
1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
3) ATL-B25 SkyClub was just teaming with Kettles! Someone in the corner was raving about her Groupon deal while my wife was unable to get a full glass of water from the bar ("we're out, would you like something from the premium bar?"). Then I saw the image that put everything unto focus for me: a businessman huddled in one of the small chairs (where the cubicles used to be) surrounded by 2 families with small, screaming children. He had on his Bose headphones, but he eventually gave up and left the club (could have been going to his flight though).
Today, I've realized that "the year of the customer" did not mean that it would be a year focused on customer satisfaction, but rather a year focused on changing who DL's customers are. The great transition from road warriors to Kettles, loyal frequent flyers to 1-flight-per-year AMEX holders is nearly complete. How will they go from 200M to 1B in ancillary revenues next year? The Kettle Ham Sandwich.
I hope (for DL's sake) they are investing in the right market segment...
1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
3) ATL-B25 SkyClub was just teaming with Kettles! Someone in the corner was raving about her Groupon deal while my wife was unable to get a full glass of water from the bar ("we're out, would you like something from the premium bar?"). Then I saw the image that put everything unto focus for me: a businessman huddled in one of the small chairs (where the cubicles used to be) surrounded by 2 families with small, screaming children. He had on his Bose headphones, but he eventually gave up and left the club (could have been going to his flight though).
Today, I've realized that "the year of the customer" did not mean that it would be a year focused on customer satisfaction, but rather a year focused on changing who DL's customers are. The great transition from road warriors to Kettles, loyal frequent flyers to 1-flight-per-year AMEX holders is nearly complete. How will they go from 200M to 1B in ancillary revenues next year? The Kettle Ham Sandwich.
I hope (for DL's sake) they are investing in the right market segment...
#4
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Really disliking the loud, crowded SkyClubs. Biggest devaluation of 2011. They used to be an Oasis (JFK T4 joke) from the standing-room only, CNN-blaring, cart beeping, disgusting chair airport gates. Now all that is moving into the SkyClub.
#5
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I've posted here before about requiring an IQ test before allowing people on the plane, and every time I fly I find more evidence to support my claim...
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#8
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Aren't bulkheads also preferred (pay) seats for non-status holders?
#9
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start with 19?
Earlier this year, a family of kettles boarded, walked back to about row 30 on a 757, looked at their boarding passes (for the first time? maybe...) realized that they were in row 20-something, looked baffled for a moment, then realized that 20 comes before 30 in almost every number system.
I've posted here before about requiring an IQ test before allowing people on the plane, and every time I fly I find more evidence to support my claim...
I've posted here before about requiring an IQ test before allowing people on the plane, and every time I fly I find more evidence to support my claim...
#10
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^^^^ you got that right, best of the worst is 1B !
#11
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1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
2) "A free ticket to anywhere DL flies"? Someone should ask these charlatans if the offer is inclusive of Sydney.
#12
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1B/1C is good unless you have a carryon. Overheads in the first couple rows are invariably used for emergency equipment and FA bags. I always try for 3B on a CRJ200 because I almost always carry on.
#13
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Earlier this year, a family of kettles boarded, walked back to about row 30 on a 757, looked at their boarding passes (for the first time? maybe...) realized that they were in row 20-something, looked baffled for a moment, then realized that 20 comes before 30 in almost every number system.
#14
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Took my last (DL) flights of 2011 today and it really hit me how much DL's target market has changed during "the year of the customer." A couple of items from today:
1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
3) ATL-B25 SkyClub was just teaming with Kettles! Someone in the corner was raving about her Groupon deal while my wife was unable to get a full glass of water from the bar ("we're out, would you like something from the premium bar?"). Then I saw the image that put everything unto focus for me: a businessman huddled in one of the small chairs (where the cubicles used to be) surrounded by 2 families with small, screaming children. He had on his Bose headphones, but he eventually gave up and left the club (could have been going to his flight though).
Today, I've realized that "the year of the customer" did not mean that it would be a year focused on customer satisfaction, but rather a year focused on changing who DL's customers are. The great transition from road warriors to Kettles, loyal frequent flyers to 1-flight-per-year AMEX holders is nearly complete. How will they go from 200M to 1B in ancillary revenues next year? The Kettle Ham Sandwich.
I hope (for DL's sake) they are investing in the right market segment...
1) On check-in at the kiosk in MCO, a couple of Kettles were checking in next to me. They complained that the kiosk wouldn't let them check-in. As it turned out, their handwritten PNR was too scribbled to be accurately read. The agent proceeded to check them in and they asked if there were available seats together. The agent replies "no... <pause>... unless you are willing to sit in an exit row." The husband Kettle jumps at the offer, but then the agent drops the bomb, "because those are premium seats, it will be $29 each." Out comes the CC & DL is $58 richer. My immediate assumption was that they were traveling transcon, but after waiting around to find out I discovered they were going to.... wait for it.... RDU! They dropped $58 to sit in 8A/B on a CRJ!
2) AMEX hawkers in the ATL-A concourse were out in full force. There were 5 of them plugging their plastic wares! Loudly, too... "Sir, come sign up for a free flight! It won't cost you anything!" "Ma'am step right up to a free ticket to anywhere Delta flies!"
3) ATL-B25 SkyClub was just teaming with Kettles! Someone in the corner was raving about her Groupon deal while my wife was unable to get a full glass of water from the bar ("we're out, would you like something from the premium bar?"). Then I saw the image that put everything unto focus for me: a businessman huddled in one of the small chairs (where the cubicles used to be) surrounded by 2 families with small, screaming children. He had on his Bose headphones, but he eventually gave up and left the club (could have been going to his flight though).
Today, I've realized that "the year of the customer" did not mean that it would be a year focused on customer satisfaction, but rather a year focused on changing who DL's customers are. The great transition from road warriors to Kettles, loyal frequent flyers to 1-flight-per-year AMEX holders is nearly complete. How will they go from 200M to 1B in ancillary revenues next year? The Kettle Ham Sandwich.
I hope (for DL's sake) they are investing in the right market segment...
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Earlier this year, a family of kettles boarded, walked back to about row 30 on a 757, looked at their boarding passes (for the first time? maybe...) realized that they were in row 20-something, looked baffled for a moment, then realized that 20 comes before 30 in almost every number system.
I've posted here before about requiring an IQ test before allowing people on the plane, and every time I fly I find more evidence to support my claim...
I've posted here before about requiring an IQ test before allowing people on the plane, and every time I fly I find more evidence to support my claim...