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Originally Posted by tkey75
(Post 17638288)
But adds a distinct canned taste. Not saying it like it's a bad thing, but I still prefer a bottled beer.
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Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson
(Post 17638574)
Let's settle this one Gentleman and ladies.
First, there are two types of beer drinking activities. 1) Sitting at the local hipster brewhouse speaking loudly to impress the other beer geeks around you with your beer knowledge. 2) Fishing Gentleman only drink beer from 4am until sunset. Once the sun goes down, a gent will change to cocktails. Beer drinking is for drinking when you are not drinking. Even the best of us can not drink Martinis and gin and tonics whilst fishing for 12 hours without being felled. That is why we have beer. The most important feature of a beer is how cold it is... I do want some of you beer fans to know that we will be addressing the IAoPWD this year to see if we can get select, Belgian style, triples in a glass to be considered as apropriate after dark. The road block here is that a gent does not consume items that may produce copious amounts of methane and methane type products. If anyone has any other questions, feel free to ask... |
Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
(Post 17638694)
That's why I like Coors, because if the can/bottle is blue, then you know it's cold.
Which is perfect for me, because fridge-cold drinks give me hiccups. :( |
Originally Posted by oh912flyer
(Post 17638934)
Real beer is not meant to be drunk fridge-cold, it is meant to be drunk cellar-cold. And no, that does not mean warm.
Which is perfect for me, because fridge-cold drinks give me hiccups. :( When I was in high school (don't tell my parents), we used to buy really crappy (and cheap!) beer. The only way it was drinkable was to place in the freezer until ice crystals formed in the bottleneck. It pretty much killed all taste at that temperature. |
Originally Posted by oh912flyer
(Post 17638934)
Real beer is not meant to be drunk fridge-cold, it is meant to be drunk cellar-cold. And no, that does not mean warm.
Which is perfect for me, because fridge-cold drinks give me hiccups. :( |
Originally Posted by nogophers
(Post 17639400)
Agreed, except on a really hot day with a cold kolsch or summer ale.
When I was in high school (don't tell my parents), we used to buy really crappy (and cheap!) beer. The only way it was drinkable was to place in the freezer until ice crystals formed in the bottleneck. It pretty much killed all taste at that temperature. The most trouble I got in when I was in high school was my father discovering a beer bottle cap in the car. Not so much because I was drinking, but because I was drinking a better brand of beer than he drank. Disposable income was a wonderful thing! |
Originally Posted by Mike1625
(Post 17637913)
While I would love to see Delta offer more/better variety of beers, one thing that I can see as problematic is that if they offer beers that the masses are unfamiliar with, I could see where people might try it, not like it, waste it and then order another beer.
This creates 2 problems, the cost of the wasted beer, but also the fuel cost of having to carry more weight to stock a couple extra beers for when someone trys an IPA, realizes they don't like it, then asks for a Miller Light. Before you laugh at me talking about fuel costs of carrying 3 extra cans of beer, multiply that by all the flights, by 365 days a year, trust me it will add up huge. Now here is a solution that would make Delta stand out, and give us beer lovers an added choice. How about 1 extra selection, systemwide (if available) called the Delta Beer of the Month. Then take choices that are mainstream, but maybe not as widely consumed, like: Sam Adams, Yuengling, Blue Moon, Labatts, Molson, Pacifico, Presidente, Red Stripe (I could go on and on) even special blends and brews of Bud, Coors, and Miller products (yes, I know I didn't correctly name the companies). Maybe even tie and international beer to a featured destination for the month, you can write all about it in the magazine, feature a beer from that country, maybe even some travel promotions. The problem in getting beer diversity onto planes is that the breweries willing to produce canned microbrews are often the smaller operations that, I suspect, are not able to make the financial concessions that DL would want in return for featuring their beers. |
Originally Posted by T.J. Bender
(Post 17639653)
The best beers are the ones that tell you to serve them between 50-52 degrees F. If you've ever had a not-so-knowledgeable host serve ice-cold Chimay at a party, you'll understand why immediately. :p
Juat not the kind of beer you load 4 cases of into an ice laden cooler for a long day on the water or watching some football... |
Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
(Post 17639842)
Your list just represents, primarily, other brands of mass-produced lagers.
The problem in getting beer diversity onto planes is that the breweries willing to produce canned microbrews are often the smaller operations that, I suspect, are not able to make the financial concessions that DL would want in return for featuring their beers. For all the recent talk we've seen from Delta about bringing in more non-seat revenue, they should definitely investigate having a couple craft options as they would likely be able to maintain their current margins, but see quite a bit more demand for their product. At the very least, let's run a pilot program (in JFK with Brooklyn Brewery cans!). Does anyone know how to make a message like this actually reach people at Delta with power? Seems like they don't monitor FT very often.... |
On a Delta flight, I don't want the moon (particularly not Blue Moon) I just want a beer that is a bit satisfying.
Thinking about all the possibilities, none of them could ever be totally gob-smackingly satisfying. They cannot offer an imperial stout aged in bourbon barrels for 16 months. They can't offer a double IPA with a sprig of actual hops that clogs up the spout. People would complain. (That said, one comment: the new cans have new-generation linings that now protect from 'canned' tastes; "canned" beer nowadays is likely to be even more purely protected from off-flavors - - and particularly from the skunky effects of light - - than bottled beers). It is obvious: the only solution is some Sam Adams beer (or something close to that). I never buy Sam Adams for my home beer emporium (their attempts at the sort of "extreme" varietals that I gravitate to are awful), but they do the best job of large-scale production & marketing, with decent quality, of beers with some richness and quality in flavor, that could be a good fit for an airline. |
Originally Posted by SpinzCity
(Post 17642029)
On a Delta flight, I don't want the moon (particularly not Blue Moon) I just want a beer that is a bit satisfying.
Thinking about all the possibilities, none of them could ever be totally gob-smackingly satisfying. They cannot offer an imperial stout aged in bourbon barrels for 16 months. They can't offer a double IPA with a sprig of actual hops that clogs up the spout. People would complain. (That said, one comment: the new cans have new-generation linings that now protect from 'canned' tastes; "canned" beer nowadays is likely to be even more purely protected from off-flavors - - and particularly from the skunky effects of light - - than bottled beers). It is obvious: the only solution is some Sam Adams beer (or something close to that). I never buy Sam Adams for my home beer emporium (their attempts at the sort of "extreme" varietals that I gravitate to are awful), but they do the best job of large-scale production & marketing, with decent quality, of beers with some richness and quality in flavor, that could be a good fit for an airline. |
I am glad to see a thread on Delta's terrible beer selection again, I thought all hope was lost. Corona is acceptable at the beach and that is about it. I agree that the most realistic solution would be something from Sam Adams or Leinenkugel, which would be a definite upgrade. I would reallly like to see a destination based beer selection. Now we just need a beer loving uber HVC to get the message to the powers that be at DL. Oh and while they are at it tell them to ditch the goldfish in the snack basket.
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If only Delta (hell, if only Americans in general) would learn to appreciate a good Scotch ale...
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I rarely drink beer onboard the aircraft. When I do, I usually spring for the Heineken, which I do enjoy drinking outside of the world of airplanes and Sky Clubs.
I would like to see the Heineken stay and perhaps some new options onboard. I really like the variety that can be found in the SCs depending on location, it's nice to have different options and makes my SC membership more enjoyable. Wish they would change out the swill at LAX though - Red Hook is the only decent beer on tap. Heineken in the bottle, though. |
Originally Posted by mersk862
(Post 17631460)
Many SkyClubs have local options/microbrews on tap...LAX has Red Hook...
:p |
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