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Summer 2012 TATL flights and aircraft type

Summer 2012 TATL flights and aircraft type

Old Dec 3, 11, 9:54 am
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Summer 2012 TATL flights and aircraft type

Summer 2012 TATL schedules look like they were updated last night with revised aircraft types (for those that were defaulted to the generic "763ER" previously). "No change" refers to comparison with last summer (2011).

Updated to reflect Dec 10 2011 schedule changes


JFK to:

LHR: 2x daily 764 + 1x daily 76T (flatbed) - 3x 764 last summer
MAN: suspended for Summer 2012
DUB: 1x daily 763; was 1x daily 752 and 2x weekly 763 last summer
SNN: 1x daily 752; no type change; will restart May 1 2012
AMS: 1x daily 763; no change
CDG: 1x daily 764; up from 1x 763 last summer; 764 starts March 24 2012
BRU: 1x daily 76T; up from 1x 752 last summer; only 763ER loaded as full-flat BE so far
NCE: 1x daily 764; 764 starts earlier (March 24 2012) instead of June in 2011
MAD: 1x daily 764; no change; 764 starts March 24 2012
BCN: 1x daily A333; no change; A333 starts March 24 2012
VLC: 4x weekly 752; no change; restart June 1 2012
AGP: 5x weekly 752; no change; restart June 1 2012
FRA: 1x daily 76T (flat-bed); up from 1x daily 752 last summer
TXL: suspended for Summer 2012
ZRH: 1x daily 763; no type change; restart June 1 2012
CPH: 1x daily 763; up from 1x daily 752 last summer; restart June 1 2012
ARN: 1x daily 763; up from 1x daily 752 last summer; restart June 1 2012
KEF: 5x weekly 752; no change
SVO: 1x daily 764; up from a mix of 763/764 last summer
PRG: 1x daily 763: down from 1x daily A332 last summer
BUD: suspended summer 2012
IST: 1x daily 763; down from 1x daily A332 last summer
ATH: 1x daily A333; no change; A333 starts March 24 2012
FCO: 1x daily A333 and 3x weekly 763ER; 767 service down from 5x weekly; A333 starts March 24; 767 starts June 1 2012
MXP: 1x daily 764; no change
PSA: 4x weekly 763ER; down from daily 763ER last summer
VCE: 1x daily 764; up from mix of 764/763 last summer; 764 starts March 24 2012
TLV: 1x daily 744; no change
ACC: 4x weekly 76T (flatbed); no change
DKR: 3x weekly 752; no change


ATL to:

LHR: 764 no change
LGW: 1x daily A332
MAN: 1x daily 763ER; no change
DUB: 1x daily 763ER; down from 1x A333 last summer
AMS: 1x daily A333; 1x daily A332; 1x daily 763ER; extra 767 service new for 2012CDG: 1x daily 763ER; down from 1x A333 and 1x 763ER last summer
BRU: 1x daily 763ER; no change
FRA: 1x daily 764; no change
MUC: 1x daily 764; no change
DUS: 1x daily 763ER; no change
STR: 1x daily 763ER; no change
ZRH: 1x daily 763ER; no change
CPH: suspended summer 2012
SVO: suspended summer 2012
PRG: suspended summer 2012
ATH: suspended summer 2012
TLV: suspended summer 2012
FCO: 1x daily A333; no change
MXP: 5x weekly 763ER
VCE: 4x weekly 763ER; no change
MAD: 1x daily 764; no change; 764 starts March 24 2012
BCN: 1x daily A333; no change; A333 starts March 24 2012
ACC: 3x weekly 76T (flatbed)
No changes to LOS (A332), DXB (777), JNB (777)

DTW to:

LHR: 764 no change
AMS: 2x daily A333; 1x daily A332; 1x daily 763ER; down from last summer (1 744 instead of A333)
CDG: 1x daily 763ER; NEW seasonal addition
FRA: 1x daily 764; no change
FCO: 1x daily A333; no change

MSP to:
LHR: 1x daily 764; no change
CDG: 1x daily A332; up from 1x daily 763ER last summer
AMS: 1x daily A333; 1x daily A332; 1x daily 763ER

CVG: no changes to CDG
MEM: 4x weekly 763ER; down from daily last summer
PHL: 752 seasonal daily restarts March 24 2012
PIT: 752 seasonal 5x weekly restarts March 24 2012
EWR: no change to AMS; DLAF dropping EWR-CDG
PDX: no change to AMS; A332 comes back March 24 2012
SLC: no change to CDG
MIA: 1x daily 76T (flatbed); was 1x daily 764 last summer
ORD: CDG flight goes back to AF metal late March 2012


BOS to:

LHR: 1x daily 764; down from 1x 764; 1x 752 last summer
AMS: 1x daily A333; 1x daily 763ER; no change
CDG: seasonal 752 restarts March 24 2012

SEA to:

AMS: 1x daily A333; 6x weekly 763ER (763 starts June; down from daily last summer)
CDG: 1x daily 763ER NEW - replacing AF metal

Last edited by ClipperDelta; Dec 12, 11 at 10:32 am Reason: Includes updates from weekend of Dec 10 2011
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Old Dec 3, 11, 11:27 am
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Thanks as always.

Would be nice to get some foresight on which routes will get reconfigured flat-bed ships in advance, but it is likely to be luck of the draw and find out a few days in advance for quite awhile.
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Old Dec 3, 11, 5:19 pm
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When we can hear more new nonstop ATL-GVA/BSL/CMN/ALG/CAI/VIE/NAP/LED/LIS?

Can DL will reinstated nonstop JFK-AMM/CAI? Is that still indefinitely suspended service until further notice. How much longer when they will bring it back to normal?
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Old Dec 3, 11, 5:38 pm
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Still waiting on JFK-OSL direct...!
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Old Dec 3, 11, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by krpjr View Post
Still waiting on JFK-OSL direct...!
And I'm still waiting on a LAX-LHR non stop
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Old Dec 3, 11, 6:17 pm
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So if I was going JFK-ATH earlier in the year I would get one of the 763 with lie-flats but not in August? Great. Well at least I do better on the 333s than the old 763s.

I ran into another problem with these schedule changes because my return from ATH on 9/3 lost the connection at JFK for ATL and now I am routed through MSP. I had perfect planes and seats and now I must finish off 23 hours of travel (starting the day in CHQ) with an RJ2 for MSP-OKC.
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Old Dec 3, 11, 8:02 pm
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looks like jfk to Valencia and Malaga are still on the 75's. I flew one of those routes last year in Y. One of the worst flights of my life. Cramped, no IFE, single aisle plane... I'd rather connect on a widebody to get to Southern parts of Spain then have to fly direct into anywhere TATL on the 75.

Hats off to DL for upgrading their widebody fleet, but the TATL 75's need some serious lovin.
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Old Dec 3, 11, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by nypdLieu View Post
looks like jfk to Valencia and Malaga are still on the 75's. I flew one of those routes last year in Y. One of the worst flights of my life. Cramped, no IFE, single aisle plane... I'd rather connect on a widebody to get to Southern parts of Spain then have to fly direct into anywhere TATL on the 75.

Hats off to DL for upgrading their widebody fleet, but the TATL 75's need some serious lovin.
Fortunately for DL these are highly leisure routes and seasonal to VLC and AGP so I don't think they have too much to worry about in upgrading the premium product. I wish they would install some flatbeds in BE and in the case of the 75As install personal TVs in every seat but I'm sure it is a ways down on the list. I too would opt for a stop in MAD if I was flying to VLC or AGP just to have a ride on the 764 for the TATL flight.
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Nothing on (ATL/JFK)-BRU?
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Old Dec 3, 11, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer View Post
Nothing on (ATL/JFK)-BRU?
Sorry about that; edited OP to include both JFK/ATL-BRU. Incidentally, JFK-BRU was the only 763ER route I could find that has already been loaded as the "76T", i.e., with the full-flat bed BE 763ERs.
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Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler View Post
Fortunately for DL these are highly leisure routes and seasonal to VLC and AGP so I don't think they have too much to worry about in upgrading the premium product. I wish they would install some flatbeds in BE and in the case of the 75As install personal TVs in every seat but I'm sure it is a ways down on the list. I too would opt for a stop in MAD if I was flying to VLC or AGP just to have a ride on the 764 for the TATL flight.
agree. The tourist routes get the bottom of the barrel, which is totally understandable. Maybe one day, after all the mods are done to the widebody fleet, we'll hear something regarding the 75's.

For my May trip to Seville, Spain, I can get as close as Malaga, then take a 3 hour train ride from there, but it would be on a 75 from jfk - agp, or I can go jfk - mad on a 764 and take a connecting flight on Iberia, whhich is only 1 hour long... the decision is an easy one to make. avoid the 75 tatl at all costs.
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Old Dec 4, 11, 12:14 am
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What's with SLC?
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Old Dec 4, 11, 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post
SEA to:

AMS: 1x daily A333; 6x weekly 763ER (763 starts June; down from daily last summer)
As always, check your itins. The reduction from daily on the later SEA-AMS flight caused a cxl for me and a re-route. I was then able to get reaccommodated on the flights I actually wanted from the start.

This is pretty routine when reserving way ahead of time.
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Old Dec 4, 11, 5:41 am
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ClipperDelta: do you know which CDG-ATL flight will be operating? I'm on DL 37 (9:20am) on June 1. My itineraries says it is operating, but it (along with the other DL operated flight) are not bookable on delta.com
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