Summer 2012 TATL flights and aircraft type

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Dec 11, 2011, 9:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Dhamal

Flights leaving into EWR to AMS are still scheduled to be a 763G.. the only bird I saw on Flightaware.com was N174DZ.. Listed as a 767-300 domestic version, but on the Delta website it says it's a 767-300ER version.. waht to believe these days..?

Is that ex-GF aircraft? I believe where the aircraft came from. It was way back in late-90s.

Dec 11, 2011, 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by andymo99

You realize that EK is flying nonstop to DXB, right? They aren't transiting AMS.

Obviously, but a lot of the connecting traffic over AMS is headed to India, which is EK's bread and butter, especially to cities other than BOM and DEL.

For example, I flew SEA-AMS-BOM-HYD earlier this year. It was on DL, with a separate segment booked on Jet. If I could have had a one-stop on EK SEA-DXB-HYD, I may have taken that instead.

Dec 12, 2011, 12:21 am

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

Pulled together from expertflyer and delta.com...I don't think TPAC has been updated/finalized yet...for example, they still show 2 777s TPAC (NRT-ATL/MSP) but only one intra-Asia 777 (NRT-HKG), which means that one 777 will be sitting for 22 hours at NRT without an intra-Asia run. Same goes with the SEA-NRT A333 - usually there is an intra-Asia A333 flight but so far, none...Also looks like the A332 is heavily utilized without much slack (so there could still be some adjustments - A332 is on NRT-PVG/BKK/SIN/LAX, and HND-LAX/DTW, in addition to PDX-AMS, ATL-LOS/AMS, etc.)

By randomly throwing in dates and routes? If so, lot of work...

Dec 12, 2011, 12:31 am

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

Where did the SEA-NRT A333 go this summer?

Dec 12, 2011, 10:40 am

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Originally Posted by Every1 Get A Life

It looks like more Summer 2012 equipment changes were loaded this weekend. I was looking at a CDG flight and noticed that MSP-CDG is now an A330-200 next summer and the DL metal JFK-CDG flight will be on a 767-400. That caused me to do some more searching around the schedule. Here is what I have found so far:

MSP-CDG A330-200
MSP-AMS A330-300, A330-200 and 767-300ER
JFK-CDG 767-400
ATL-LGW A330-200
JFK-LHR 2x 767-400 and 1x 767-300 with flatbeds
MIA-LHR 767-300 with flatbeds
LAX-NRT 777-200

Let me know if anyone sees anything else.

Thanks for the heads-up...went back and changed the first post to reflect latest changes. Other recent changes:

DTW-FRA now back to 764ER; was previously loaded 763ER

ATL-AMS will now have 3x daily (1 763ER, 1 A333, 1 A332) - that's more than ever, plus the KL-operated 777 service (for a total of 4x daily!)

Also lots of big schedule/time changes particularly at JFK (e.g., JFK-ZRH now will leave 430p instead of 1010p; JFK-CPH will now leave 500p instead of 1010p; JFK-VLC used to be at 430p but will now leave 950p, JFK-CDG will now leave 415p instead of 715p; JFK-AMS will now leave 840p instead of 400p, JFK-NCE will now leave 800p instead of 555p, etc.)

Flatbed 763ERs loaded so far for summer 2012 include:

DL106 JFK-FRA
DL140 JFK-BRU
DL 80 ATL-BRU
DL 26 JFK-ACC
DL134 ATL-ACC

With the above moves, FRA (ATL/DTW with 764; JFK with 76T), BRU, and ACC will become all flat-bed stations.

Dec 12, 2011, 11:03 am

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TPAC+ Intra-Asia Summer 2012...so far

Here are the TPAC schedules/aircraft type after this past weekend's changes:

NRT to:

HNL: 1x daily 744; 1x daily A333; 1x daily 763ER
SFO: 1x daily 763ER
LAX: 1x daily 777
SEA: 1x daily A333
PDX: 1x daily 763ER
SLC: appears to be suspended for Summer 2012
DTW: 1x daily 744
MSP: 1x daily 777
JFK: 1x daily 744
ATL: 1x daily 777

ICN: 1x daily 757
PUS: 1x daily 757
PEK: 1x daily 763ER
PVG: 1x daily A333 (previously loaded as A332)
HKG: 1x daily 777
TPE: 1x daily 744
MNL: 1x daily 744
SIN: 1x daily 777 (previously loaded as A332)
BKK: 1x daily A333 (previously loaded as A332)
SPN: 2x daily - 18x weekly 757 (depending on month)
GUM: 2x daily 757; 1x daily 763ER
ROR: 3x weekly 757

HND to:

DTW: 1x daily A332
LAX: 1x daily A332

NGO to:

DTW: 1x daily 744
HNL: 1x daily 763ER
MNL: 1x daily 744
GUM: 1x daily 757

KIX to:

SEA: 1x daily 763ER (was A333 during last summer peak)
HNL: 1x daily A333
GUM: 1 to 2x daily 757 (depending on month)

Other TPAC flights (not including interport flights from these cities):

FUK-HNL: 5x weekly 763ER
ICN-DTW: 1x daily 777
HKG-DTW: 5x weekly 777
PVG-DTW: 1x daily 777 (was 744 last summer)
PEK-DTW: 5x weekly 777
PEK-SEA: 1x daily 763ER
SYD-LAX: 1x daily 777

Dec 12, 2011, 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by nypdLieu

For my May trip to Seville, Spain, I can get as close as Malaga, then take a 3 hour train ride from there, but it would be on a 75 from jfk - agp, or I can go jfk - mad on a 764 and take a connecting flight on Iberia, whhich is only 1 hour long... the decision is an easy one to make. avoid the 75 tatl at all costs.

Don't forget that connecting from DL to IB at MAD involves a terminal change. By the time you allow for that (plus padding in case the DL flight is late, and transfer from SVQ to the city) it may be just as fast to take the train from Madrid to Seville (2:20 to 2:45 depending on the specific train).

Dec 12, 2011, 12:23 pm

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

I like the changes (or at least new routes on 777).

Dec 12, 2011, 7:59 pm

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Am I really the only flyertalker who prefers the 752s to 763s transatlantic?

Our summer 2012 trip to ARN switched to the 763s and I am bummed out! I really enjoyed that there are only 15 assignable seats instead of ~34 on the 763. For this traveler the smaller biz cabin is preferred. I can't be alone...

Dec 12, 2011, 8:18 pm

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

Here are the TPAC schedules/aircraft type after this past weekend's changes:

NRT to:

HNL: 1x daily 744; 1x daily A333; 1x daily 763ER
SFO: 1x daily 763ER
LAX: 1x daily 777
SEA: 1x daily A333
PDX: 1x daily 763ER
SLC: appears to be suspended for Summer 2012
DTW: 1x daily 744
MSP: 1x daily 777
JFK: 1x daily 744
ATL: 1x daily 777

ICN: 1x daily 757
PUS: 1x daily 757
PEK: 1x daily 763ER
PVG: 1x daily A333 (previously loaded as A332)
HKG: 1x daily 777
TPE: 1x daily 744
MNL: 1x daily 744
SIN: 1x daily 777 (previously loaded as A332)
BKK: 1x daily A333 (previously loaded as A332)
SPN: 2x daily - 18x weekly 757 (depending on month)
GUM: 2x daily 757; 1x daily 763ER
ROR: 3x weekly 757

HND to:

DTW: 1x daily A332
LAX: 1x daily A332

NGO to:

DTW: 1x daily 744
HNL: 1x daily 763ER
MNL: 1x daily 744
GUM: 1x daily 757

KIX to:

SEA: 1x daily 763ER (was A333 during last summer peak)
HNL: 1x daily A333
GUM: 1 to 2x daily 757 (depending on month)

Other TPAC flights (not including interport flights from these cities):

FUK-HNL: 5x weekly 763ER
ICN-DTW: 1x daily 777
HKG-DTW: 5x weekly 777
PVG-DTW: 1x daily 777 (was 744 last summer)
PEK-DTW: 5x weekly 777
PEK-SEA: 1x daily 763ER
SYD-LAX: 1x daily 777

Sorry to see SLC-NRT go.

Jan 2, 2012, 2:24 pm

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DL Metal/Lay Flat Seats (764) - JFK-CDG Next Summer

Hi Everyone,

No, I'm not asking if this route has lay flats or how I can book them...

I have a BUD-AMS-JFK-CDG-BUD trip booked for next June in Y (EC) on DL metal for the TATL flights.

Originally, the TATL portions were our much hated 763's...presumably un-refurbished ones.

MUCH to my surprise today, when checking my seats, I realized DL 184 JFK-CDG is a 764. In looking at the schedule, this flight is listed as a 767, and I know it can change to a 763...

Just something to keep in mind if you're flying JFK-CDG next summer! If you've already booked, you may want to check your seats!

robin

Jan 2, 2012, 2:52 pm

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That's good to know. Makes the thought of going to DXB via CDG much more palatable

Jan 2, 2012, 2:55 pm

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JFK-CDG on a DL 764 effective in March was is noted by ClipperDelta a month ago in this thread.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...raft-type.html

Jan 9, 2012, 6:34 pm

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Thanks for all the effort into this thread, planning summer trips, and work trips to Asia, great to have!! ^^^^^^^^^

Jan 10, 2012, 8:10 am

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still don't understand why JFK-BER can't support a flight

maybe DL doesn't want anyone to see a brand new airport, and compare it to the disaster that is JFK?

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